Hi Tony,

It was just the principle of the use of the number basically without
clarifying the missing stuff. That's all and I am glad it is done.

Yes, fakes are a problem, why I buy from people I know and now trust.  I was
taken by a well known guy once in  PA for the C&O Gondola with the red
pipes.  Paid allot for pipes with the letter R on the inside!  At least the
R was inside, but I didn't know to look for that inside of those pipes.

I didn't know about reproductions at the time and he didn't tell me.  I was
the sucker that PT Barnum wrote about and never again.

I hope you understand a little more why I wanted that change on the
description and why I felt strong about it.

Don't forget the "House of the Rising Sun"!

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony in Michigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Re: Another mis-lead Ebay item


> I do agree that the number should represent something but Ebay is a place
> where you have to assume the seller either doesn't know or is out to
> stiff you. Hey, how many fakes have you seen at TCA meets? I have seen
> plenty some not even marked as reproductions. Now I will go off and
> listen to the Animals playing It's My Life!
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:39:44 -0500 "mlmarmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I am happy that he changed his description of the car, to reflect
> > the
> > missing piece, as some of you didn't understand my point.  In
> > principle, the
> > item was mis-represented and the man, if he didn't know about it,
> > didn't to
> > bother to write me back, questioning my email, as I wrote him a very
> > polite
> > and respectful email on it.
> >
> > Yes, to someone who knows AF, they will bid according to what the
> > boxcar
> > itself is worth and I can't answer that.
> >
> > To someone who doesn't know it is missing a major piece, the other
> > car and
> > rocket, may bid on it, with a bid based on the entire piece.  Maybe
> > a person
> > might call someone and ask what a piece may be on the item number
> > itself, if
> > they had no books and were new into flyer like I was at one time.
> > That's
> > all.
> >
> > That was my whole purpose of this, not that it has a bid of 400
> > dollars and
> > Tony, emotions has nothing to do with this.  Something that reflect
> > an item
> > number whether a train, a auto part, a lamp kit, anything, should
> > be
> > reflective of everything in that box.  That is it and I am done with
> > it.
> >
> > I will email the seller and thank him for adding that bit about the
> > car.
> >
> > Thank you and I will now "light my fire" with Jim Morrison playing
> > in the
> > background,
> >
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Brindell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Re: Another mis-lead Ebay item
> >
> >
> > > I noticed that the seller has now updated the item description,
> > pointing
> > out
> > > that the other car is missing.  So, at least he was honest, after
> > it was
> > > called to his attention.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "mlmarmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:32 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Re: Another mis-lead Ebay item
> > >
> > >
> > > > Absolutely true, as an uneducated person , new to the hobby
> > overall,
> > will
> > > > not know that the other car and rocket is missing.  And the
> > seller may
> > not
> > > > say a word to that person, as he is laughing to himself, should
> > that
> > price
> > > > be reflective of a complete car set.
> > > >
> > > > Sort of like the Monon unloading car, in a way, without the
> > platform.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:59 PM
> > > > Subject: [S-Trains] Re: Another mis-lead Ebay item
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It's no different than a car sitting on a train show table.
> > Caveat
> > > > > emptor.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "mlmarmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > John,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I haven't heard from him on his listing of the AF 25056 and
> > > > > probably wont.
> > > > > > I feel for the person who wins
> > > > > > this car and pays allot for it, without the knowledge of
> > the
> > > > > missing car and
> > > > > > hard to find rocket, if that should happen.  Hopefully the
> > winner
> > > > > is fully
> > > > > > aware of the missing piece, but I don't know that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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