Dear Ted:
        I would do what I am doing to get my UP diner.  I wanted a diner
that met this simple criteria.  All in one diner with the kitchen at one end
and tables at the other.  No multi-car diners like the SP had.  (Tables,
kitchen, tables in three, articulated cars!)
        Dennis found one in the City of Los Angeles.

I ordered the thin sides from Dennis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  Then I got an
unpainted smoothside car from Ron of American Models in August of last year.
(I asked.)  As I am not modeling any specific Union Pacific train, I didn't
care if they were accurate or not for the UP.  I told Dennis the choice of
diner was up to him.  Dennis went hunting and found such diner in the COLA.
He made me sides.

The sides are very nice.  They have small dimples where all of the handrails
should go eliminating that guess work.
        On Sunday I put the sides into the box with the shell.  (The AM box
Ron sent it to me in is marked Heavyweight Scale and contains an
unassembled, black plastic, highrail, streamliner coach.)

----------------------------

It has been suggested that Dennis and I manufacture passenger cars to
conserve the AM streamliners.  Let's put this one to rest.  I don't have the
time and if I did, I would manufacture electrics.
        I haven't even made MY diner, much less painted it.

Thorin

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: diner


I am not a river counter, so perhaps something already on the list
meets my needs.  I want a dining car for my GN AM lightweight passenger
train.  Ted Larson  


 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:12:43 -0600
   From: "Marty.Thorin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Laser Horizon current list

Dear list members;
        Dennis tried to post and failed.  So I am posting for him.  Contact
Dennis using the address in the 'cc'.

Thorin

------------------------

S scale group,

Per your request, here is the current list of cars sides
that are programmed and ready for production.
Let me know what you need that is NOT on the list.
Customer demand is how this list developed.
Coming soon: L&N inspection car with theater seating.

UNION PACIFIC  CARS
UP4069    1938  Pullman 4069    4 dbr/4 compt./2 dr
UP4099    1942  Pullman 4099     6 section/6 roomts/4 br
UP5400    1950  Pullman  44 seat Coach series 5400 - 5449
UP5450    1952  A.C.F.      44 seat Coach series 5450 - 5487
UP7385    1937  Pullman  48 seat Coach series 5300 - 5327
UP9004    1949  A.C.F.  12 Roomettes/4 Bedrooms  WESTERN
UP6009    1965  Pullman  11 Double Bedrooms        SUN
UP7000    1955  A.C.F        Chair Dome    series 7000 - 7009
UP8000    1955  A.C.F.       Dome Diner    series 8000 - 8009
UP-COLA                       Diner/Kitchen   CITY OF LOS ANGELES

SOUTHERN PACIFIC  CARS
Part No     Blt     Make      Plan     Configuration          
SP4069-  1938  Pullman 4069    4 dbr/4 compt./2 dr
SP4071-  1938  Pullman 4071    13 double bedrooms
SP4072-  1938  Pullman 4072    10 roomts / 5 bedrms
SP4082-  1939  Pullman 4082     observation
SP4099-  1942  Pullman 4099     6 section/6 roomts/4 br
SP4122-  1948  Pullman 4122    22 roomettes  
SP7420-  1938  Pullman 7420    27 seat Parlor/1 dwg rm
SP7421-  1938  Pullman 7421    Tavern / Lounge
SP7422-  1939  Pullman 7422    44 seat Coach 


PENNSYLVANIA RR
Part No    Blt     Make      Plan   Configuration           Series
3P125-   1938  Pullman 4066  12 duplex/5 bedrms   BROOK
3P18RT- 1938  Pullman 4068  18 roomettes         CITY OF
3P442-   1938  Pullman 4069   4 dbr/4 compt.2 dr  IMPERIAL
3P13DB- 1938  Pullman 4071  13 double bedrooms   COUNTY
3P105-   1938  Pullman 4072  10 roomts/5 bedrms   CASCADE
3P2BL-   1938  Pullman 4077   2 bdrm/buffet/lounge HARBOR
3P31BL- 1938  Pullman 4078   3 bdrm/1dr/bar/lnge COLONIAL
3P4081- 1938  Pullman 4081   Observation               NARROWS
3P6BL-   1940  Pullman 4086   6 bdrm /buffet/lounge FALLS
P3KD-     1939  Pullman 7414     kitchen / diner     4514
4P4129- 1949  Pullman 4129  10 roomts / 6 bedrms  RAPIDS
4P124-   1949  Pullman 4130  12 duplex / 4 bedrms  CREEK
4P6BL-   1949  Pullman 4131   6 bdrm /buffet/lounge FALLS
4P31BL- 1949  Pullman 4132   3 bdrm/1dr/bar/lnge COLONIAL
4P106-   1949  Pullman 4140  10 roomts/6 bedrms    RAPIDS
4P3BL-   1948  Pullman 4141   3 bdrm/buffet/lounge HARBOR
4A442-   1948  A.C.F.         4 dbr/4 compt.2 dr IMPERIAL
A4FLD-   1948  A.C.F.        full length Diner
                                  4600 thru 4608 (even)
A4KD-    1948  A.C.F.       kitchen/dormitory
                                   4601 thru 4609 (odd)
P70GSR  1942  PRR       68 seat coach  4194 thru 4243
P70KR    1940  PRR       56 seat coach  4269  (etc.)
D70ASR  1940  PRR rebuild  Diner/Kitchen  4439 & 4457
D70CR    1943  PRR rebuild  Diner 68 seats 4682 - 4698 (even)
D70DR    1943  PRR rebuild  Kitchen/Dormitory
                                               4685, 4687, 4695, 4697
D70ER     1943  PRR rebuild  Kitchen/Lunch counter
                                                4681, 4683, 4689, 4691,

4693
D78D       1951 PRR rebuild  Diner/Lounge/Kitchen/Pantry
POC70R   1943 PRR rebuild  Observation    1121 & 1131
PDB70R   1943 PRR rebuild  Lounge/Dorm/Bagg  series 6702

  
NYC   PASSENGER CAR SIDES   
Part No     Blt    Make      Plan  Configuration           Series
NY4068-  1939 Pullman 4068 18 roomettes            CITY OF
NY4069-  1938 Pullman 4069  4 dbr/4 compt.2 dr   IMPERIAL
NY4069B-1938 Pullman 4069B  4 dbr/4 compt.2 dr  BRIDGE
NY4071-  1939 Pullman 4071 13 double bedrooms    COUNTY
NY4072-  1938 Pullman 4072 10 roomts/5 bedrms   CASCADE
NY4076-  1938 Pullman 4076    Club/Lounge/Dorm.  CENTURY
NY4079-  1938 Pullman 4079   Observation               ISLAND
NY4079A 1946 Pullman 4079  re-build Observation  ISLAND
NY4082-  1939 Pullman 4082   Observation               RIVER
NY4086-  1939 Pullman 4086  6 bdrm/buffet/lounge   FALLS
NY4122-  1948 Pullman 4122 22 roomettes                 BAY
NY4123-  1948 Pullman 4123 10 roomettes/6 bedrms RIVER
NY4124-  1948 Pullman 4124  6 bdrm/buffet/lounge   LAKE
NY4125-  1949 Pullman 4125 12 double bedrooms       PORT
NY4126-  1948 Pullman 4126  Observation                 CREEK
NY7405-  1938 Pullman 7405  Diner/Kitchen       680  -  685
NY7406-  1938 Pullman 7406  Baggage/Mail      5017 - 5020
NY7464-  1941 Pullman 7464  Coach, 56 seats  2600 - 2644
NY7543-  1948 Pullman 7543  Baggage/Dorm.    8961 - 8969
NY7544-  1948 Pullman 7544  Diner (full length)   400 - 403
NY7545-  1948 Pullman 7545  Kitchen/Lounge       476 & 477
NY7546-  1948 Pullman 7546  Kitchen/Dormitory  474 & 475 
NY7547-  1948 Pullman 7547  Diner/Kitchen          440 - 446
NY7548-  1948 Pullman 7548  Club/Lounge             SHORE
NY2910-  1947 A.C.F.               Baggage               9100 - 9199
NY2958-  1947 A.C.F.         Baggage/30ft. Mail    5014 & 5015
NY2959-  1947 A.C.F.         Baggage/60ft. Mail    4907 - 4910
NY2960-  1947 A.C.F.      Baggage/48 seat Coach  344  &  345

PULLMAN  PASSENGER CAR SIDES  
Part No   Blt   Plan      Configuration      Railroads
4068-   1938 4068    18 roomettes    NKP,  IC,  CN,
                                     NYC,  PRR,  NdeM
4069-   1938 4069    4 dbr/4 compt.2 dr  CNW,  IC,  CN,
                             SP,  UP,  CRIP,  NYC,  PRR
4071-   1938 4071    13 double bedrooms  SP,  NYC,  PRR
4072-   1938 4072    10 roomts / 5 bedrms ATSF,  B&O,
                                     CP, SP,  NYC,  PRR
4099-   1942 4099     6 section/6 roomts/4 br ATSF, CNW,
                          CRIP, ERIE, IC,  MP,  SP,  UP
4122-   1948 4122    22 roomettes     IC,  SP,  CN, NYC
4140-   1949 4140    10 roomts/6 bedrms  L&N,  RF&P,
                                           N&W, PRR

NORFOLK & WESTERN   "POWHATAN ARROW" 
NW533      1949    58 seat Coach      car number 533
NW511      1949    Compartment Coach  car number 511
NW502      1949    Crew / Compartment Coach  car # 502
NW494      1949    Diner                car number 494
NW581      1949    Observation      car number 581


ERIE   CARS
ER622      1951 rebuild    Dormitory /30ft Mail   622 - 626
ER627      1950  A.C.F.      Baggage /30ft Mail      627 - 629
ER4186    1954 Pullman  10 roomettes / 5 Bedrooms
                                               SPIRIT OF YOUNGSTOWN
ER4099-  1942 Pullman   6 sections/6 roomettes/4 bedrooms
                                               AMERICAN  series

                    
ER4129A  1949 Pullman 10 roomettes / 6 bedrooms
                                     Erie presidents:  MARVIN KENT, 
etc.


LACKAWANNA CARS
DL&W301     1949  A.C.F.    62 seat Coach   series 301 - 315
DL&W9008   1949  A.C.F.    10 Roomettes / 6 Bedrooms
                                              TIOUGHNIOGA, etc.
       
DELAWARE & HUDSON cars
D&H31        Coach   62 seats       series 31 - 34
D&H41        Diner / Lounge          series 41 & 42
D&H51        Baggage car              series 51 - 53
D&H201      Coach  76 seats       series 201 - 206
                                  ACF lot 1874  blt 1939
D&H202      Coach  76 seats     series 202, 204 - 206 
                                  rebuilt by Hoover Industries
                                 

BALTIMORE & OHIO cars
B&O4167    1950   Pullman  10 roomettes / 6 bedrooms
B&O7552    1949   Pullman   Diner / Kitchen


CANADIAN NATIONAL cars
CN-CL-7      1954   Club car, blt 1954  series  581 -   585
CN-M-22     1954   Diner / Kitchen      series 1337 - 1350


Thanks for you interest,
Dennis Sautters
Laser Horizons




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