Dear David, No problem. My concern was sage-cell being used in a different context other than the original intention.
Kind regards, Elimboto On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 4:04 PM David Farmer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Is it necessarily bad if sage-cell expands beyond its original > intenteon? I don't see any harm if > > sage-cell is used beyond its original context. Many ideas start from one > point and end-up being > > something else, but sage-cell can still do both. > > Dear Elimboto, > > I'll repeat the reasons I gave in my previous email. > > a) Someone is paying for the server which allows everyone else > to use Sage cells for free. If Sage cells are routinely used > by many people for extensive computations, then at some point > the server will be inadequate and Sage cells will not work. > > b) One person is doing almost all the work to maintain Sage cells. > Every new package and new use case has the potential to increase > the work load for that person. What if the work load becomes more > than that person is happy to do on a volunteer part-time basis? > > c) Every new feature has a cost. What if I come up with a great > idea which significantly enhances the original mission of Sage > cells, but the implementation is delayed, or more difficult, > because of the distractions from the change in scope of the mission? > > There are many examples of software failing in its original > mission because it keeps getting new features and expanded scope. > No doubt the developers "didn't see any harm" in the changes > they made, yet the harm occurred. I don't want Sage cells to suffer > that fate. > > And I'll repeat another thing I said in my previous email: there > already are superior alternatives available. > > The specific reason you gave is the convenience of doing calculations > anywhere, away from your usual computing environment. I do not > think that a minor convenience outside of the intended scope > is a justification for the requested changes to Sage cells. > > Regards, > > David > > > > > > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, 15:12 David Farmer, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I don't know anything about this particular request, > > but it seems to me that sage cells are moving beyond their > > original intention. > > > > The purpose of sage cells is to embed computations in a web page. > > That is, I create a web page which allows you to do computations > > in the context of that page. > > > > Sage cells are not intended to be a complete computing environment. > > Such environments exist: SageMath, CoCalc, Mathematica, Maple, > etc. > > Those are the tools to use for research and extensive calculations. > > > > I see a risk in trying to have Sage cells fill a role for which > they > > were not intended, and for which there already exist superior > > alternatives. Specific concerns are: the drain on the (free to > users) > > server which the cells use, work load for the (essentially > volunteer) > > maintainer, and potentially compromising the ability of sage cells > > to be successful at their intended mission. > > > > Regards, > > > > David Farmer > > > > > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, Elimboto Yohana wrote: > > > > > Hi Andrey, > > > > > > I was struggling with a cumbersome method to import survey data > from KoBoToolbox > > > (https://www.kobotoolbox.org/) into Google sheets to be > analyzed using SageCell and > > just discovered > > > that there is a package that can read data from KoBo directly. > KoBoToolbox is a free > > and > > > open-source suite of tools for field data collection, very > suitable for use in > > challenging > > > environments. > > > > > > I request whitelisting KoBo URLs: > > > > > > - https://kf.kobotoolbox.org > > > - https://ee.kobotoolbox.org > > > - https://kobo.humanitarianresponse.info > > > > > > and the installation of the Python package koboextractor: pip > install koboextractor > > > (https://pypi.org/project/koboextractor/) > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Elimboto > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "sage-cell" > > group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > it, send an email to > > > [email protected]. > > > To view this discussion on the webvisithttps:// > groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-cell/CACEZTmvK84JmYGbk9NNf3HxTGTRamMXsGXXDFroJoaE4L%3D > > qzDg% > > > 40mail.gmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-cell" > > group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to > > [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visithttps:// > groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-cell/alpine.LRH.2.21.2108220758570.30625%40li375-150.member > > s.linode.com. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-cell" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to > > [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visithttps:// > groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-cell/CACEZTmu9gzoJcvVRt3WcKSS%2Bqg_Z4WowBBFHwbhJsTAy0mpxoQ% > > 40mail.gmail.com. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-cell" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-cell/alpine.LRH.2.21.2108220847080.30625%40li375-150.members.linode.com > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-cell" group. 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