AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH.

So let me get this right : the plan to ask the CNRS some money in order to 
help you ask the Europe even MORE money, and it is assumed that a 
percentage of the bigger grant will go to a guy whose full-time job is to 
ask for money ?

If there is something wrong in the world of research, I can't see it.

Nathann

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:18:12 PM UTC+1, Paul-Olivier Dehaye wrote:
>
> I am completely inexperienced with this, but:
>  - I have heard people around me say that with this type of grant support 
> for preparation of a grant, professional grant writers should be hired. 
> They help write the not-so-scientific portion of the grant.
>  - I have heard  first hand from a "Principal Administrator of a unit in 
> DG CONNECT"  that these writers do make a difference.
>  - I have also heard that some of those grant writers work like tort 
> lawyers, and get paid only if the grant is funded. They then get paid some 
> percentage of the administration budget of the grant, and that this is 
> allowed.
> I can ask for more details if you would like.
> Paul
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery 
> <nicolas...@u-psud.fr<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>>         Dear colleagues,
>>
>> At the occasion of a presentation of the European H2020 call for
>> grants, I started discussing opportunities for Sage with Eugénia
>> Shadlova (in charge of European projects at Université Paris-Sud) and
>> Jean-Pierre Caminade (research infrastructure mission in the french
>> research ministry). From those discussions, it seems a good bet could
>> be the call EINFRA-9: e-Infrastructure for Virtual Research
>> Environment.  The time line would be a submission in January 2015,
>> with funding starting 8 month after the submission.
>>
>> So now is a good time to start thinking about it. This in particular
>> since the French CNRS INS2I institute is offering support (up to 5000
>> euros) for preparing such proposals, with an application deadline on
>> the 21st (this Friday!). This money could be used e.g. to organize a
>> Sage-Days this year geared toward this grant (and real work too!).
>>
>> European H2020 calls concern countries in Europe as well as associated
>> countries and third countries as listed on [1]. Just to mention a
>> couple where I can think of Sage developers and users from the top of
>> my head, this includes e.g. Switzerland, Israel, Senegal, or South
>> Africa.
>>
>> If you would tentatively be interested in joining as a participant,
>> PI, or even better lead PI, please get in touch with me at any time,
>> specifying:
>>
>> - Name, e-mail
>> - trac & github account if you have them
>> - Status, institute (I can derive that from the main page of
>>   trac.sagemath.org if the information there is up to date)
>>
>> I have setup a git project for this would-be proposal [2]. A mailing
>> list is coming too. I will add all the participants there so that they
>> can start editing the information.
>>
>> The draft of project grew up from previous attempts at the scale of
>> Sage-Combinat in France; there remains traces which should of course
>> be cleared. Also other grant opportunities c/should be explored!
>> (e.g. Paul-Olivier mentioned COST networks). And again: if anyone
>> feels like taking on / sharing the lead, please!!!
>>
>> Please forward this to whoever might be interested.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>                                 Nicolas
>>
>> [1] 
>> http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/docs/h2020-funding-guide/cross-cutting-issues/international-cooperation_en.htm
>> [2] https://github.com/nthiery/sagemath-grant-europe/
>>
>> --
>> Nicolas M. Thiéry "Isil" <nth...@users.sf.net <javascript:>>
>> http://Nicolas.Thiery.name/
>>
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