Probably https://bugs.python.org/issue19733 is still relevant?
Note messages

test_image (tkinter.test.test_ttk.test_widgets.ButtonTest) ... skipped
'crashes with Cocoa Tk (issue19733)'

one gets by running

python3 runtktests.py

Even though 19733 was closed, it's not clear whether they tested on macOS 11.


in
/usr/local/Cellar/python@3.9/3.9.1_7/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/tkinter/test/

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:32 AM Zachary Scherr <zsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I found something possibly relevant at
>
> https://bugs.python.org/issue42691
>
> although there the complaint was that Homebrew built python against system 
> tcl and the suggestion was that Homebrew use its own tcl-tk.  It seems that 
> Homebrew is correctly using its own tcl-tk
> since the line
>
> 5   libtcl8.6.dylib                     0x000000032998c72e AtForkPrepare + 38
>
> says that python is using tcl 8.6 and system tcl is 8.5.  No idea what's 
> going on, but it might be good to try to produce a minimal reproducible 
> example to show to the python/tcl people.
> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 12:11:54 PM UTC-5 dim...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2021, 17:03 John H Palmieri, <jhpalm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Right, thank you. Python 3.9 builds successfully.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 7:14:29 PM UTC-8 zsc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For the --with-system-python3=no, I don't know what the problem is but I 
>>>> think it was fixed by upgrading to python 3.9 in 
>>>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30589
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 9:45:37 PM UTC-5 John H Palmieri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On OS X Big Sur (intel), as of the most recent Xcode and homebrew, I am 
>>>>> currently unable to build Sage with either homebrew's Python or with 
>>>>> `./configure --with-system-python3=no`.
>>>>>
>>>>> - With homebrew's Python, actually Sage builds but the documentation does 
>>>>> not (similar problems on both Big Sur and Catalina), ending with
>>
>>
>> yes, I see this too. (with latest Homebrew python 3.9.)
>>
>> What exactly is broken there?
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 0   signals.cpython-39-darwin.so        0x000000010cd40542 
>>>>> print_backtrace + 66
>>>>> 1   signals.cpython-39-darwin.so        0x000000010cd44167 sigdie + 39
>>>>> 2   signals.cpython-39-darwin.so        0x000000010cd4406a 
>>>>> cysigs_signal_handler + 282
>>>>> 3   libsystem_platform.dylib            0x00007fff203bcd7d _sigtramp + 29
>>>>> 4   ???                                 0x000000000000003f 0x0 + 63
>>>>> 5   libtcl8.6.dylib                     0x000000032998c72e AtForkPrepare 
>>>>> + 38
>>>>> 6   libsystem_pthread.dylib             0x00007fff203781a3 
>>>>> _pthread_atfork_prepare_handlers + 90
>>>>> 7   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x00007fff2a575934 
>>>>> libSystem_atfork_prepare + 11
>>>>> 8   libsystem_c.dylib                   0x00007fff2025bb1b fork + 12
>>>>> 9   _posixsubprocess.cpython-39-darwin. 0x000000010b63db89 
>>>>> subprocess_fork_exec + 1573
>>>>> 10  Python                              0x000000010af10904 cfunction_call 
>>>>> + 127
>>>>> 11  Python                              0x000000010aedffa3 
>>>>> _PyObject_MakeTpCall + 266
>>>>> 12  Python                              0x000000010af88027 call_function 
>>>>> + 455
>>>>> ...
>>>>> 157 Python                              0x000000010afcf10f Py_BytesMain + 
>>>>> 42
>>>>> 158 libdyld.dylib                       0x00007fff20393621 start + 1
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Unhandled SIGILL: An illegal instruction occurred.
>>>>> This probably occurred because a *compiled* module has a bug
>>>>> in it and is not properly wrapped with sig_on(), sig_off().
>>>>> Python will now terminate.
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ...
>>>>>   File 
>>>>> "/Users/palmieri/Desktop/Sage/sage_builds/TESTING/sage-9.3.beta6/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/sage_setup/docbuild/utils.py",
>>>>>  line 221, in reap_workers
>>>>>     w = bring_out_yer_dead(w, task, exitcode)
>>>>>   File 
>>>>> "/Users/palmieri/Desktop/Sage/sage_builds/TESTING/sage-9.3.beta6/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/sage_setup/docbuild/utils.py",
>>>>>  line 157, in bring_out_yer_dead
>>>>>     raise WorkerDiedException(
>>>>> sage_setup.docbuild.utils.WorkerDiedException: worker for 
>>>>> ('reference/misc', 'en', 'html', {}) died with non-zero exit code -4
>>>>>
>>>>> - With `./configure --with-system-python3=no`, Python fails to build (on 
>>>>> Big Sur only; it succeeds on Catalina), saying
>>>>>
>>>>> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'readline'
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'zlib'
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
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