On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 9:07:09 AM UTC+9 Nils Bruin wrote:

> It may well be that it's convenient internally to have element 
> constructors to allow for a "mutable=True/False" flag. It may even help 
> with implementing the feature under consideration here: making sure that 
> vector spaces have an option to produce (immediately) hashable elements as 
> a result from arithmetic operations in that vector space. But it does not 
> replace the need for being able to set that flag on a parent.
>

I thought we need a ticket and a chart to guide this discussion: 

https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/32353

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