On 20 February 2024 22:44:02 GMT, Matthias Koeppe <matthiaskoe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 12:45:25 PM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
>On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 8:13 PM Matthias Koeppe <matthia...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>I have been doing the vast majority of this maintenance work in the past 4
>years, and I have been improving the tooling to reduce the workload
>associated with it -- and to make it more accessible to other contributors.
>
>
>testing and reviewing this endless stream of updates and new packages, etc.
>is also work, a lot.
>
>
>I'll note that testing of most package upgrades has been automated by the
>CI, specifically by my CI Linux Incremental workflow. Manual testing of
>most of these upgrades is not necessary.
>
>
>And you also are not shy in outsourcing your "vast majority" either.
>E.g. I got totally fed up with this at this point:
>https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36777
>- where you kindly invited me to add few hundred text files by hand,
>copy-pasting from the repology repo - all thanks to your truly wonderful
>labour-reducing tooling... Wondeful tooling - homo sapience with vi and
>mouse - very flexible, reliable.
>
>
>I can confirm that you seemed upset. But everything else is false.
>
>The project of supporting use of system site-packages via "./configure
>--enable-system-site-packages"
>(https://github.com/sagemath/sage/wiki/Sage-10.2-Release-Tour#configure---enable-system-site-packages-experimental)
>
>is not mine. I have expressed my skepticism about it early on, but have
>nevertheless supported its merge
>(https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36141) for experiments by the
>interested parties, and in the interest of synergy/collaboration on
>maintaining the "install-requires.txt" files, which have another use for
>the metadata of our packages on PyPI.
>
>This feature remains in experimental status, as it fails on numerous
>platforms (see https://github.com/sagemath/sage/actions/runs/7894201915,
>section "standard-sitepackages").
>
>When I saw what you were trying to do in your PR
>https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36777, trying to support use of
>system Jupyter by means of this system-site-packages mechanism (and using
>the very "micro-management of dependencies" that you are lamenting about
>here), I suggested a better approach
>in https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36777#issuecomment-1831172595 and
>https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36777#issuecomment-1832426588.
>Unfortunately you dismissed it without giving it much consideration.
>
>I then invited you to work on an Issue that would improve the tooling,
>https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/36356, exactly to eliminate the
>copy-pasting from the repology repo that you were doing, but you declined.
>
I basically don't want to collaborate with you, Matthias, because of your
conduct. Sometimes I have to, but too often interactions with you piss me off
too much, and then I just don't feel like keeping on.
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