On 2025-09-25 15:47:24, John H Palmieri wrote: > Here are some recent occurrences in Sage development: > > 1. The documentation is not built by default.
Is there an issue about this? I don't build the docs so I honestly don't know. What I do know is that when we recently switched to meson for building the sage library, the docs were built unconditionally. I know because I had to (re)add the option to disable them: https://github.com/sagemath/sage/commit/aca4aed1192 They are however enabled by default, so AFAIK they should be built, and the intention was never to change that. > 2. There has been the assertion that Conda is the recommended approach for > compiling from source. This has been beaten to death, e.g. * https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/AvH3xq2bCfo/m/Rrr0Chp0DAAJ * https://github.com/sagemath/sage/discussions/39272 Ultimately, what we should recommend is what is most likely to work. The bottom line is that sage distribution is rotting. Speaking for myself, now that I'm not forced to maintain hundreds of duplicate packages, I don't. And from the git log on build/pkgs, I'm not alone. With no one maintaining the packages there, it ceases to be what is most likely to work. Conda is a good alternative, but I also get the impression that the suggestion du jour is not the point of your post. This issue is unique in that no one needs to do anything for the sage distribution to bit-rot. Packages become out-of-date and incompatible with newer libraries/compilers all on their own; no malice on behalf of any sage developers is involved. No one has decided to switch to Conda, it's just slowly becoming the better choice. Some may find that regrettable, but it's not something that can be addressed by fiat. Reversing the trend would involve a huge, ongoing time commitment, indefinitely. People are free to work on it if they want to, but we can't legislate it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/aNXecTDe7KR233MN%40mertle.
