On February 1, 2026 12:21:37 PM CST, 'Martin R' via sage-devel 
<[email protected]> wrote:
>apparently there is a problem with gap_package_hap.  I can run and access 
>it in an interactive session, but it makes the doctester hang.
>
>what is the difference when something is executed as part of doctesting?
>
>possibly related: although I can start sage using
>
>(sage-dev) martin@toolbox:~/sage-trac$ sage
>
>I need to prepend "./" when I want to run "sage -t".
>
probably you have a version of sage in your PATH, which is not the same as 
./sage

this spells trouble...




>Martin
>
>
>On Friday, 30 January 2026 at 08:54:22 UTC+1 Martin R wrote:
>
>> I don't really know, but I don't think that I have any other gap things 
>> installed (yet).
>>
>> (sage-dev) martin@toolbox:~/sage-trac$ mamba list 
>> List of packages in environment: "/home/martin/miniforge3/envs/sage-dev" 
>>
>>  Name                           Version       Build 
>>                 Channel     
>> ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
>>  
>>
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>>
>> On Thursday, 29 January 2026 at 23:45:36 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> It might be trying to get an online resource, a GAP database of groups 
>>> (e.g. altasrep).
>>> What GAP packages are installed?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On January 29, 2026 4:02:45 PM CST, 'Martin R' via sage-devel <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am on ubuntu, with conda, and have an extremely strange situation:
>>>>
>>>> (sage-dev) martin@toolbox:~/sage-trac$ ./sage -t --verbose 
>>>> src/sage/groups/perm_gps/permgroup.py  
>>>> Running doctests with ID 2026-01-29-22-58-01-92547518. 
>>>> Git branch: develop 
>>>> Git ref: 10.9.beta4 
>>>> Running with SAGE_LOCAL='/home/martin/miniforge3/envs/sage-dev' 
>>>> Using --optional=conda,pip,sage,symengine 
>>>> Features to be detected: 
>>>> 32_bit,4ti2,benzene,bliss,buckygen,conway_polynomials,coxeter3,csdp,cvxopt,cvxopt,database_cremona_ellcurve,database_cremona_mini_el
>>>>
>>>> lcurve,database_cubic_hecke,database_ellcurves,database_graphs,database_jones_numfield,database_knotinfo,dot2tex,dvipng,ecm,flatter,fpylll,fricas,gap_package
>>>>
>>>> _atlasrep,gap_package_design,gap_package_grape,gap_package_guava,gap_package_hap,gap_package_polenta,gap_package_polycyclic,gap_package_qpa,gap_package_quagr
>>>>
>>>> oup,gfan,giac,glucose,graphviz,imagemagick,info,ipython,jmol,jupymake,jupyter_sphinx,kenzo,khoca,kissat,latte_int,lrcalc_python,lrslib,mathics,matroid_databa
>>>>
>>>> se,mcqd,meataxe,meson_editable,mpmath,msolve,nauty,networkx,numpy,palp,pandoc,pdf2svg,pdftocairo,pexpect,phitigra,pillow,plantri,polytopes_db,polytopes_db_4d
>>>>
>>>> ,pplpy,primecountpy,ptyprocess,pycosat,pycryptosat,pynormaliz,pyparsing,python_igraph,regina,requests,rpy2,rubiks,sage.combinat,sage.geometry.polyhedron,sage
>>>>
>>>> .graphs,sage.groups,sage.libs.braiding,sage.libs.ecl,sage.libs.flint,sage.libs.gap,sage.libs.giac,sage.libs.homfly,sage.libs.linbox,sage.libs.m4ri,sage.libs.
>>>>
>>>> ntl,sage.libs.pari,sage.libs.singular,sage.misc.cython,sage.modular,sage.modules,sage.numerical.mip,sage.plot,sage.rings.complex_double,sage.rings.finite_rin
>>>>
>>>> gs,sage.rings.function_field,sage.rings.number_field,sage.rings.padics,sage.rings.polynomial.pbori,sage.rings.real_double,sage.rings.real_mpfr,sage.sat,sage.
>>>> schemes,sage.symbolic,sage_numerical_backends_coin,sagemath_doc_html,scipy,singular,sirocco,sloane_database,sphinx,symengine_py,sympy,tdlib,threejs,topcom
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Doctesting 1 file. 
>>>> src/bin/sage -t --warn-long 5.0 
>>>> --random-seed=10763884564472103541661530835467931176 
>>>> src/sage/groups/perm_gps/permgroup.py
>>>>
>>>> After this, nothing happens anymore, and even more surprisingly, the cpu 
>>>> is idle.
>>>>
>>>> cubegroup.py in the same directory works, also permgroup_element.pyx, 
>>>> but permgroup_named.py does not.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
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