On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:37 PM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I used to really enjoy writing programs in mathematica, but maybe I'm
> a strange person.  I only stopped in order to force myself to get
> fluent with Sage.  I think it just depends on your background, what
> you are used to, and what you want to do.  For symbolic calculations
> and programming I still miss mathematica quite often.
>
> -M. Hampton
>
> On Aug 20, 12:59 am, "Fernando Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > but
>> > programming in Mathematica is not fun.
>>
>> And that would be the understatement of the week.

I don't think you're strange, I was just joking a bit.  Caveat: it's
been years that I've *programmed* in Mathematica in a serious way
(recently I've mostly used it as a fancy calculator for quickly
computing integrals I'm too lazy to do  by hand).  But having said
that, what I really found Mathematica programming to be was a very
mixed experience: certain things that should be easy were
unjustifiably tricky to achieve, even after consulting with local
hard-core gurus.

But the elegance with which you can  manipulate expressions
*structurally* is truly something to behold. This comes courtesy of
the lisp-like facilities you have for accessing any entity, working on
it as an expression tree you  can manipulate with very powerful
transformation rules. And there are classes of problems where that
approach allows you to get pretty much exactly the solution you're
after with a minimum amount of fuss, where as in more conventional
languages it would be a lot of work.

So there, I hope this is a slightly more reasoned reply to a topic
worthy of an honest answer ;)

Cheers,

f

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