I'm not sure if I understand correctly. If I include e or pi in the 
substitution (e.g. y(pi = pi)), they are seen as arguments for the rest 
of the session. However, if I query for type(e) or type(pi), I still get 
<class 'sage.functions.constants.E'>. This seems inconsistent to me. If 
this is caused by the interaction with maxima, I suppose that this 
behaviour will change with the changeover to Pynac. If this is the case, 
there is no point submitting a ticket. I'll just wait and avoid the 
subs(locals()) or subs(globals()) commands in the mean time.

Cheers,
Stan



Carl Witty wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Stan Schymanski <schym...@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I encountered some mysterious problems earlier when I used .subs(locals
>> ()), where some global variables such as pi and e were lost (see. e.g.
>> thread 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/browse_thread/thread/0f1086c43611242a?).
>>
>> Now I found an example that demonstrates this a bit better:
>>
>> sage: var('a b c blah')
>> sage: varsdict = dict(blah = exp(b))
>> sage: y = (1/blah*a - sin(pi*c)).subs(varsdict)
>> sage: y.arguments()
>> (a, b, c)
>>
>> But, doing the same thing using .subs(locals()) gives:
>>
>> sage: var('a b c')
>> sage: blah = exp(b)
>> sage: y = (1/blah*a - sin(pi*c)).subs(locals())
>> sage: y.arguments()
>> (a, b, c, e, pi)
>>
>> Here, sage suddenly seas e and pi as variables, which leads to all
>> sorts of problems when using fast_float or simplifying, or plotting.
>> The original behaviour is only restored after restarting the notebook!
>> E.g. using the previous approach again now gives:
>>
>> sage: var('a b c blah')
>> sage: varsdict = dict(blah = exp(b))
>> sage: y = (1/blah*a - sin(pi*c)).subs(varsdict)
>> sage: y.arguments()
>> (a, b, c, e, pi)
>>
>> Shall I open a ticket for this or is it intended behaviour?
>>     
>
> I have a guess as to what is going on.  Perhaps it's using maxima to
> do the substitution, and so it tells maxima that every local variable
> name is actually a symbolic variable?
>
> If this is the problem, I'm not sure how to fix it, though.
>
> Carl
>
> >
>   


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