On 19 April 2011 07:40, Robert Bradshaw <[email protected]> wrote:

> Seems we've moved away from the "release early, release often"
> strategy and now alphas are essentially the new release (except they
> are allowed to have doctest failures, etc.)

I don't think that's a fair comment.

We seemed to have moved away from the lunatic release frequency, with
so called "stable" releases being anything but stable. Now releases
are better tested.

> The fact that the latest
> release is not good enough to develop off of is unfortunate for both
> budding and veteran developers. But, I guess that's how things are
> now... On that note, should we be more prominently featuring these
> alpas on our page if this is what people should be using?

I don't think people should be using alphas. But that's not to say I
don't think they should be made available. As I've said on sage-devel
before, I think at least the release candidates should be
predominately placed on the Sage web site. Perhaps the alphas too.

>> Isn't it a waste of (someone's)
>> computing resources to be using such an outdated version?
>
> Well, feel free to ignore the results and apply the patch/run the
> tests yourself :). Note that if a patch does not apply cleanly, very
> little compute time is lost. Actually, the intent was (still is) to
> merge this into Sage itself, and so anyone could run a buildbot
> against whatever Sage on whatever system they had (though it probably
> makes sense to just run one such bot on sage.math, which could be
> against the latest alpha if that was automated, or even better against
> the rolling hg tip of the release manager). We'll need to make it
> better at dependency checking and perhaps whitelisting known doctest
> failures.
>
> Anyways, building a 4.7 alpha now...
>
> - Robert
>
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