On Aug 25, 2016 10:18, "William Stein" <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016, Luca De Feo <de...@lix.polytechnique.fr> wrote: >> >> > I deleted it as flame bait. I'm sick of people using sage-devel as a >> > forum to attack others >> >> I'm sick of it too. But this kind of unilateral actions only fuels the flame, it does not extinguish it. >> >> Especially given your position as a CEO of a for profit company, William. Even though you do not have the power to do the same with Sage as what just happened with MariaDB, the community is entitled with a legitimate (unfounded, I believe) fear of SageMath Inc. trying to do something similar at some point. This kind of unilateral censorship, although well intentioned, can only spark more of those flames. > > > If people really want flame bait on this list, then I am going to stop reading sage-devel.
I'm inclined to agree. I think that characterizations like "unilateral" and "censorship" are needlessly pejorative in this case. Sometimes swift and unforgiving action against ill-willed and toxic trolling is justified. *Especially* given a lack of better moderation standards. That said, while I think the lack of community standards justifies it, that lack still isn't excused. >> Any long lived community on the net has moderators, be they elected or co-opted. No one moderator takes this kind of decisions alone. Can we try, once again, to start a process to become a well behaved community? There is no shortage of very good examples of well behaved, long lived, FOSS communities. Think Debian, think Software carpentry, ... Here I agree with Luca. I think this is desperately needed this community. I've been wanting very much to bring it up for a while but as I know from personal experience it takes a lot of work and I'm already spread too thin. Also being rather new to this community I don't feel comfortable taking the lead on such a discussion. But I think it does need to happen. (Just not starting in this thread of course). Best, Erik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
