Sure I'm happy to try the new tarball. Thanks!

Marco

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 5:28:03 PM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:34 PM Marco Castronovo 
> <marco.c...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > 
> > The problem still persists with the file build/pkgs/pynac/spkg-install 
> modified to contain the line: 
> > 
> > sdh_configure --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-static --with-giac=no 
> PYTHON=sage-python23 
> > 
> > 
> > Is this what you meant? Sorry maybe I misunderstood. 
>
> You did. One needs to update pynac package to include the change 
> https://github.com/pynac/pynac/pull/347 
>
> this means to prepare a new pynac tarball to be placed in upstream/ 
> and few other things. 
> I asked whether you could try such a new tarball, which I am willing to 
> prepare. 
>
>
> > 
> > 
> > Marco 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 4:24:18 PM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> yes, because, as I explained, this has no effect on pynac - you need 
> >> to change its source to make this option work, as I propose here: 
> >> https://github.com/pynac/pynac/pull/347 
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:19 PM Marco Castronovo 
> >> <marco.c...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > I copied the file in sage-8.8/src/bin/sage-dist-helpers and ran chmod 
> +x sage-dist-helpers, then ran make again. I seem to be getting the same 
> error. The log is attached. 
> >> > 
> >> > Marco 
> >> > 
> >> > On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 4:10:00 PM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik 
> wrote: 
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:43 PM Marco Castronovo 
> >> >> <marco.c...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > There is no file named "sage-dist-helpers" in my directory 
> sage-8.8/build/bin/ , do you mean that I should just copy the new file in 
> there? 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Oh, right, it was moved after 8.8, in 8.8 it is 
> >> >> src/bin/sage-dist-helpers 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Marco 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:46:55 PM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik 
> wrote: 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> So you get try the branch on 
> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/28511 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Or simply replace build/bin/sage-dist-helpers with 
> >> >> >> 
> https://git.sagemath.org/sage.git/plain/build/bin/sage-dist-helpers?id=b17854b509b5721830344766ba0bb61b9523c9f6
>  
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> (I haven't tested it yet, but it's a very easy change...) 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 7:29 PM Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> 
> wrote: 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 7:11 PM Marco Castronovo 
> >> >> >> > <marco.c...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > I included the old log file, here is the new with the warning 
> you were mentioning: 
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: 
> --disable-maintainer-mode 
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > Is there a way to consistently pass this option for all 
> packages? Any help is very welcome. 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > We're talking about this issue here: 
> >> >> >> > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/28511 
> >> >> >> > I'll post a patch there. 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > Marco 
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 12:22:33 PM UTC-4, Dima 
> Pasechnik wrote: 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:39 PM Marco Castronovo 
> >> >> >> > >> <marco.c...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > The option --disable-maintainer-code doesn't seem to help. 
> Here is the log for the latest package (pynac) that fails to build. The 
> error seems to be always related to an attempt to run autotools. 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> pynac's configure does not support this option. 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> probably you also didn't pass it properly, as there should 
> be a warning 
> >> >> >> > >> in the log about unknown option, but it's not there; just in 
> case, it 
> >> >> >> > >> should go into the line 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> sdh_configure --disable-static --with-giac=no 
> PYTHON=sage-python23 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> of build/pkgs/pynac/spkg-install 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> Would you like to try a version of pynac with this option 
> supported? 
> >> >> >> > >> I could easily make one for you. 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > Marco 
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 4:07:03 PM UTC-4, Dima 
> Pasechnik wrote: 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 8:50 PM Marco Castronovo 
> >> >> >> > >> >> <marco.c...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> > It seems that every time the compilation stops with an 
> error, the error is fixed by running ./configure and then ./make again. I 
> don't know how to interpret this, but it seems to work. 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> And the error is always of this sort, an attempt to run 
> autotools? 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> maybe a skew system clock, or some other joy coming 
> >> >> >> > >> >> from a big cluster... 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> I guess this can be fought by using 
> AM_MAINTAINER_MODE([disable]) 
> >> >> >> > >> >> or directly by passing 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> --disable-maintainer-mode 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> to the respective ./configure scripts. 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> E.g. with sqlite one can change the line 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >>   sdh_configure 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> in build/pkgs/sqlite/spkg-install to 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >>   sdh_configure --disable-maintainer-mode 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> to get rid of this spurious autotool rebuilds. 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> > Marco 
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> > On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 3:34:28 PM UTC-4, 
> Marco Castronovo wrote: 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'm using a bash shell. 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Marco 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 3:19:06 PM UTC-4, 
> Dima Pasechnik wrote: 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> Are you by any chance running the build from zsh 
> shell? 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> What is the output of 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> echo $SHELL 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> if you run it at the command prompt? 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> If this is the case, could you run the build from 
> bash instead? 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> (this error message with sqlite looks quite similar 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> to the previous one, so it might actually have 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> nothing to do with network file systems...) 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 8:01 PM Marco Castronovo 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> <marco.c...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > Compiling in the scratch partition made the process 
> go smoothly for a while, until it got stuck again on sqlite-3270100 ... I'm 
> attaching the log for that. I don't understand if this is an issue of 
> different nature. 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > Marco 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 12:03:22 PM UTC-4, 
> Dima Pasechnik wrote: 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> Are  you building on a networked file system? 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> That's the only reason for the gf2x install to try 
> running autotools, 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> that some timestamps are off a bit... 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> Sage normally can be built from source without 
> autotools. 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> If it's possible please do building on a local 
> filesystem 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> (usually referred to "scratch partition" or 
> something like this). 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:56 PM Marco Castronovo 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> <marco.c...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> > Thank you, this fixed the problem. However, now 
> make can't build gf2x-1.2.p0 , see attached log. It's complaining that GNU 
> Autoconf is not installed. I'm pretty sure it is installed system-wide (I'm 
> on a node of a computing cluster), so I guess the question is: what 
> directory does make go to look for these utilities? Maybe I can modify this 
> directory with some parameter passed to configure before running make? 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> > Best, 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> > Marco 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> > On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 11:35:00 AM 
> UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote: 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> Hi, 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> It looks as if your /home/mc1903/bin/makeinfo 
> is broken. 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> here is what happens: the configure of mpc 
> finds makeinfo there, and 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> the mpc build tries 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> to use it, but to no avail. 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> Either fix it, or move it out of the way (for 
> the building of Sage, at least) 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> HTH 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> Dima 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> PS. Normally, makeinfo is installed systemwide, 
> and you might ask your 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> sysadmins to install it... 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:12 PM Marco 
> Castronovo 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> <marco.c...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > Dear all, 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > I tried to build Sage 8.8 from source on a 
> Linux 3.10 x86_64 machine, but make fails while building mpc-1.1.0. The 
> error I get is: 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] Making all in doc 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] make[6]: Entering directory 
> `/cache/home/mc1903/sage-8.8/local/var/tmp/sage/build/mpc-1.1.0/src/doc' 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] restore=: && backupdir=".am$$" && 
> \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] am__cwd=`pwd` && 
> CDPATH="${ZSH_VERSION+.}:" && cd . && \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] rm -rf $backupdir && mkdir 
> $backupdir && \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] if (/usr/bin/bash 
> /cache/home/mc1903/sage-8.8/local/var/tmp/sage/build/mpc-1.1.0/src/missing 
> makeinfo --version) >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0]   for f in mpc.info 
> mpc.info-[0-9] mpc.info-[0-9][0-9] mpc.i[0-9] mpc.i[0-9][0-9]; do \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0]     if test -f $f; then mv $f 
> $backupdir; restore=mv; else :; fi; \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0]   done; \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] else :; fi && \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] cd "$am__cwd"; \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] if /usr/bin/bash 
> /cache/home/mc1903/sage-8.8/local/var/tmp/sage/build/mpc-1.1.0/src/missing 
> makeinfo   -I . \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0]  -o mpc.info mpc.texi; \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] then \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0]   rc=0; \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0]   CDPATH="${ZSH_VERSION+.}:" && 
> cd .; \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] else \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0]   rc=$?; \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0]   CDPATH="${ZSH_VERSION+.}:" && 
> cd . && \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0]   $restore $backupdir/* `echo "./
> mpc.info" | sed 's|[^/]*$||'`; \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] fi; \ 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] rm -rf $backupdir; exit $rc 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] Can't locate 
> Texinfo/ModulePath.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/mc1903/share/texinfo 
> /cache/home/mc1903/sage-8.8/local/lib/perl5 /usr/local/lib64/perl5 
> /usr/local/share/perl5 /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl 
> /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib64/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 .) at 
> /home/mc1903/bin/makeinfo line 83. 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] BEGIN failed--compilation aborted 
> at /home/mc1903/bin/makeinfo line 86. 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] make[6]: *** [mpc.info] Error 2 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] make[6]: Leaving directory 
> `/cache/home/mc1903/sage-8.8/local/var/tmp/sage/build/mpc-1.1.0/src/doc' 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] make[5]: *** [all-recursive] 
> Error 1 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] make[5]: Leaving directory 
> `/cache/home/mc1903/sage-8.8/local/var/tmp/sage/build/mpc-1.1.0/src' 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] make[4]: *** [all] Error 2 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] make[4]: Leaving directory 
> `/cache/home/mc1903/sage-8.8/local/var/tmp/sage/build/mpc-1.1.0/src' 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] 
> ********************************************************************************
>  
>
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] Error building mpc-1.1.0 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > [mpc-1.1.0] 
> ********************************************************************************
>  
>
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > Please find attached a more detailed log. 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > Best regards, 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > Marco Castronovo 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > 
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