On 6/14/07, Ted Kosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > David wrote: > > > You did not say which sage sites were blocked by a firewall. > > I have not specifically checked to see which of the high schools we > are serving are blocking SAGE servers. My observation was that each > of these schools had different website access policies and that it was > difficult to have these policies changed. > > Beyond this, we are running into the issue of student homework and > tests being stored on a server that is not under control of the > school. > > This is definitely a challenging problem to solve :-) > > > > > Honestly, I think if you were able to write a SAGE tutorial for > > middle and high school students then I this would serve as > > evidence that SAGE sites should not be blocked and that > > SAGE is useful for fulfilling the mission of the school system. > > My impression is that school administrators almost speak > > a different language. > > Assuming that the site blocking and external student data issues were > solved, the existing notebook paradigm is inadequate because students > are able to see each other's work. I think that the addition of > something like the bookshelf paradigm I discussed earlier might help > solve this problem. > > > > > This is a great solution and the only drawback is that such a > > live cd should be maintained. In fact, I believe that a live SAGE CD > > has already been created by Alfredo Portes > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/ > > Can you look at that and see if it work for you? > > I download a copy of the sage-live-server-1.6.iso file and burned it 3 > times using 2 different machines, but I receive an error which I tried > to boot from them. I also tried booting the .iso file in a vmware > livecd appliance, but I received the same error. > > Perhaps the .iso was corrupted during download and a thought here > would be to include a hash of the file on the download site so that > its integrity could be checked :-) > > I did read the README.txt file for the livecd and its philosophy was > similar to what I had in mind. The SAGE server is inside the school's > firewall so it avoids the website blocking and external student data > storage problem. > > Now, if the "students can see each other's homework" problem could be > solved, that would be great! > > Ted > > Hi Ted,
I'm here at SAGE days 4. As I think was mentioned before on the mailing list, a group of developers here is rewriting the SAGE notebook from the ground up. One of our highest priorities is providing a true multiuser environment, complete with permissions. When we are done, using the notebook will require you to authenticate. A worksheet will only be visible to its creator. Users will be able to share and invite collaborators on a per-worksheet basis, using a model that is very similar to the one used by google documents. William Stein will be teaching a class with high school students very soon, and he wants to use this new functionality. So everything that you want should be ready to test in a few days. ~Bobby -- Bobby Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://sage.math.washington.edu/sage/ and http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
