On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:10 AM, bix...@gmail.com <bix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I built sage from source and ran 'make test' on it. It failed on
>        sage -t  "devel/sage/sage/plot/plot.py"
>        sage -t  "devel/sage/sage/symbolic/function.pyx"
>        sage -t  "devel/sage/sage/rings/polynomial/multi_polynomial.pyx"
>        sage -t  "devel/sage/sage/functions/constants.py"
> though the build documentation suggested that it was normal to fail on
> a couple tests?
>
> When I launch the version I compiled from source, it didn't give me
> any warning about instruction sets. It appears to function exactly the
> same as the binary I downloaded, once I removed the sage-flags.txt
> file. So it seems that there is nothing wrong with the pre-built
> version, though someone might want to look into why it claims to
> require sse4_1 when it does not appear to need them (possibly it was
> compiled on a machine with sse4 so it automatically assumes it is
> needed?

That's true.

> ). Perhaps sse4 doesn't need to be listed in sage-flags.txt?

I think that is true.  In fact, I posted a patch to remove ssse4 from
the flag list.

> As for William Stein's comment, I watched memory usage as it tried to
> compute pi(10^10), and it didn't rise noticeably before giving the seg
> fault (it also only took a moment). Even if it is a memory issue,
> doesn't sage have a more graceful and informative way to fail?

One would hope.

> I
> wonder how pi(x) is computed in sage, it it is simply referencing a
> pre-computed table of primes then perhaps the seg fault is an
> indication that it went past the end of the table?

No -- in sage <= 3.4 it uses the PARI C library to *enumerate* all
primes up to x.

> I looked at the entry in the tracker, what does prime_pi(k,40) do? I
> thought that prime_pi was a function of a single variable, and when I
> tried using it that way in sage it threw an error.
>
> Thank you both for your help,
>
>  - Ryan
>
> On Mar 18, 3:20 pm, Johan Oudinet <johan.oudi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:20 PM, bix...@gmail.com <bix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>>
>> > After using version 3 for over a year, it finally occured to me I
>> > should upgrade. When trying to start version 3.4 I get:
>>
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > | Sage Version 3.4, Release Date: 2009-03-11                         |
>> > | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.        |
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> > **********************************************************************
>> > WARNING!  This Sage install was built on a machine that supports
>> > instructions that are not available on this computer.  Sage will
>> > likely fail with ILLEGAL INSTRUCTION errors! The following processor
>> > flags were on the build machine but are not on this computer:
>>
>> > sse4_1
>>
>> > Emailhttp://groups.google.com/group/sage-supportfor help.
>> > To remove this warning and make Sage start, just delete
>> >     /home/bixbyr/Desktop/sage-3.4-linux-Ubuntu_8.10-i686-Linux/local/
>> > lib/sage-flags.txt
>> > **********************************************************************
>>
>> > I tried removing this file to see if sage will run correctly, it
>> > doesn't seem to. For a quick stress test I did
>> > sage: prime_pi(10^10)   ... and got back
>> > /home/bixbyr/Desktop/sage-3.4-linux-Ubuntu_8.10-i686-Linux/local/bin/
>> > sage-sage: line 197:  8689 Segmentation fault      sage-ipython "$@" -
>> > i
>>
>> > It returns correctly for prime_pi(10^9), so although it's possible
>> > that the two errors are unrelated, that seems a strange way to fail if
>> > the issue were related to insufficient memory.
>>
>> > I downloaded sage-3.4-linux-Ubuntu_8.10-i686-Linux.tar.gz from the
>> > University of Washington mirror. I'm running ubuntu 8.10, kernel
>> > version 2.6.27-11-generic. I have 4gb of ram, though running a 32 bit
>> > kernel effectively limits me to ~3.2 gb. Since sse4 is a cpu
>> > instruction set (from what I understand), here it the output for cat /
>> > proc/cpuinfo:
>>
>> > processor       : 0
>> > vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
>> > cpu family      : 6
>> > model           : 15
>> > model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
>> > stepping        : 11
>> > cpu MHz         : 1600.000
>> > cache size      : 4096 KB
>> > physical id     : 0
>> > siblings        : 4
>> > core id         : 0
>> > cpu cores       : 4
>> > apicid          : 0
>> > initial apicid  : 0
>> > fdiv_bug        : no
>> > hlt_bug         : no
>> > f00f_bug        : no
>> > coma_bug        : no
>> > fpu             : yes
>> > fpu_exception   : yes
>> > cpuid level     : 10
>> > wp              : yes
>> > flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
>> > cmov
>> > pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm
>> > constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2
>> > ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
>> > bogomips        : 4799.97
>> > clflush size    : 64
>> > power management:
>> > ( ... it then lists 3 more processors with the same information)
>>
>> > Although not the newest processor, it seems like this should be recent
>> > enough to run sage. I also tried installing the new version on my
>> > laptop, another ubuntu 8.10 system this time with a core 2 duo
>> > processor, and got the exact same error.
>>
>> > Any thoughts? Thanks a lot,
>>
>> Have you tried to build Sage from sources? If you also get the same
>> error, it will mean this is not an error related to your cpu
>> instruction set.
>>
>> --
>> Johan
> >
>



-- 
William Stein
Associate Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
http://wstein.org

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