On May 12, 6:50 pm, Jason Grout <jason-s...@creativetrax.com> wrote:
> kilucas wrote:
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> > On May 12, 5:14 pm, Jason Grout <jason-s...@creativetrax.com> wrote:
> >> kilucas wrote:
> >>> <snip>
> >>> I hadn't thought about multiple v single notebook architectures and
> >>> will think harder about that now.
> >> Or what I would do in your place is just use one notebook for now, and
> >> worry about trying to set up multiple notebooks later if you want it.
> >> It's trivial to start up multiple notebook instances once you have one
> >> working.
>
> > V helpful. Thanks.
>
> >>> So do I just set up the server by following the single user
> >>> installation instructions plus your tips on security, and then find a
> >>> URL that provides remote access to that server? (And if so, what would
> >>> that URL look like?)
> >> There is one setting that you need to change on the vmware server to
> >> allow outside network access (someone else will have to chime in here; I
> >> don't know the setting). I believe you need to change the networking to
> >> be "bridged networking". Then you need to work with your network
> >> administrator about the URL to use to access the server.
>
> > I'll go in search of this setting. Effectively I am the administrator
> > here (not that I'm a professional techie) so I know the external URL
> > to the current web server that's running on my Windows server but I
> > don't know how I'd adjust this to find Sage. Maybe that'll become
> > obvious but if anyone knows what shape the URL should take, I'd be
> > interested to hear. I'm not even clear at this stage which web server
> > (my existing server or one supplied by Sage) will apply.
>
> The vmware sage server will have its own IP address, and thus its own
> hostname and URL. Sage includes a webserver that will run over the
> vmware network address; that is the webserver you would use (not the one
> on the host computer). If you change the networking to bridged
> networking, start up the vmware server, then start up sage, you can get
> the hostname by doing:
>
> sage: import socket
> sage: socket.getfqdn()
> 'good'
>
> (fqdn stands for fully qualified domain name)
>
V helpful. Time to give this a try, I think.
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> >>> Or is there more to it than that to drive multiple users from a
> >>> Windows-based server?
> >>> I ask because the linux instructions for setting up a multi-user
> >>> environment looked different from the instructions for a single user
> >>> and so I was guessing that the Windows set up would also be different.
> >> What instructions are you referring to? The linux instructions should
> >> work, except that you'll also have to change the vmware networking to
> >> "bridged" networking (I believe).
>
> > I'm using the pdf version of the Sept 17 2008 installation
> > instrcutions. The contents page of this document shows:
>
> > 1 Introduction
> > 2 Pre-built Binary Install
> > 2.1 Linux and OS X
> > 2.2 Microsoft Windows
> > 3 Install from Source Code
> > 3.1 Steps to Install from Source
> > 3.2 Installation in a Multiuser Environment
> > System-wide install
> > 3.3 Special Notes
> > 4 Running the SAGE Notebook Securely
> > 5 Desktop icon
> > 6 The Sage Documentation
>
> > You can see that "3.2 installation in a multi-user environment" is
> > covered only in the "3 installation from source code" section. This
> > implies that it's achieved through a source code install rather than a
> > binary install. And, when you look at 3.2, you find it's all about
> > Linux anyway. Hence my puzzle about how to set up a multi-user
> > environemnt under Windows.
>
> That section is for installing Sage on a computer that has multiple
> users so that they can all use sage from the command line, not for
> setting up sage to be a notebook server for multiple users. That
> section does not apply to your situation. I can see the confusion from
> the name, though.
Ah! I've been fretting about the wrong part of the instructions then.
But I've learned a lot in the process. For which, many thanks indeed.
Time to install!
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Thanks
Kevin
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