right, it was discussed here
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/nlXP6cv4LAY/MKkqEDu8BwAJ
at length (Ivan works with Apple products in his day job I believe),
so it's quarantine feature that kills App startup
time.

I think we should just pull binaries for the MacOS App, until this is fixed.



On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 7:18 PM <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:56:45PM -0600, Thomas McMillan wrote:
> > Thanks, Richard. I’m currently running Sage from a terminal with the option 
> > of opening a notebook. It works reasonably well. The app version kept 
> > taking too long to get started.
>
> One reason for slowness might be one of these
> quarantine/antivirus/malware/etc settings on MacOS that might make all
> the app files being "verified" on statup.
>
> "proper apps", from MacOS point of view, must be signed/come
> from App Store, while the rest are subjected to these checks.
>
> So one might try to play with these settings.
>
> HTH
> Dima
>
> >
> > --
> > Tom McMillan (iPad)
> >
> > > On Dec 10, 2019, at 11:42 AM, Richard W Bump <richard.w.b...@gmail.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > On my late 2012 Mac-mini with a 2.6GHZ quad core I7 processor it takes 
> > > about 3 minutes to load from the desktop ICON.  I loaded 8.9 under the 
> > > previous (10.13.?) version and it did take several minutes, probably at 
> > > least 15 minutes, to organize and start.  The last few versions of 
> > > SageMath have been slow to start.  When I have a problem as you describe, 
> > > I just delete and reload, but with Catalina, I'm not sure how it will 
> > > load.  My machine is old and overloaded with at least two other servers 
> > > running, so I expect slower results, some I start and stop like Sage 
> > > unless I or my wife needs it, but two are usually constantly going.  You 
> > > might try deleting what you have, try another download site . . . I like 
> > > Washington or MIT, that has been an issue once,  reload, and step away 
> > > from the machine until it prompts you. I have been impatient more than 
> > > once and experienced problems.
> > >
> > >> On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 5:37:39 PM UTC-6, Tom wrote:
> > >>  I’ve installed SageMath-8.9.app.dmg on my MAC (OS X 10.14.6).  There 
> > >> was no link installed on the desktop. I tried to start Sage by double 
> > >> clicking on “SageMath-8.9” in the Applications folder.   After about 3 
> > >> hours this 
> > >> "file:///Applications/SageMath-8.9.app/Contents/Resources/loading-page.html”
> > >>  turned up in Safari. After about a half-hour more, this 
> > >> "http://localhost:8888/tree” opened up in a new Safari window, from 
> > >> which I appear to be able to open notebooks.
> > >>
> > >>       1.  How do I set it up so I can start Sage from the desktop (or 
> > >> applications folder or dock), more quickly?
> > >>       2.  How do I run sage from a command line window?
> > >>
> > >>             Thanks,
> > >>
> > >>                      Tom
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