On Saturday, 28 October 2023 at 18:50:12 UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote:

On Saturday, 28 October 2023 at 15:26:35 UTC-7 Kwankyu wrote:


f1, f2, f3 are univariate polynomials (say in y) over rational function 
field (say in x). Then x and y are not always the variables X and Y of the 
coordinate ring of the affine plane. Things are more complicated if the 
curve is in space (of dim > 2).
 

Sure. But you did get x,y somehow from the model with which C was given. 
Most likely, the A2 on which x,y are coordinates is obtained via projection 
from whatever model C was given by? Even if it is not a linear map, there 
are still expressions through which you can pull back x,y to the original 
model. You're right that the representations may get rather bad, but I'm 
not sure there's really something you can do about that. 


The most pressing problem in sage at the moment seems to be that presently 
there only seem to be morphisms between schemes. You need rational maps for 
this (especially from a singular model, the map to a canonical model might 
only be a rational map).

So I think we'd first need a bit of a push to get some infrastructure for 
rational maps. In fact "maps" between schemes in magma are just rational 
maps. So presently there is really a difference in functionality.

There are some conceptual problems with the main "map" type between schemes 
being a rational map. But it is very convenient and certainly for curves a 
much better fit than maps that are clearly morphisms.

I might be overlooking something ... currently sage allows for the 
construction of a rational map P2 -> P2, but then asking for the image of a 
curve C in P2 leads to

TypeError: map must be a morphism

(which should probably be a ValueError). Perhaps the code is just 
unnecessarily picky? 

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