Good pickup..
I mean place the entry in maintenance for <delay> time.
Maybe instead of using "delay" keyword, we could use "Restart-In" for the
restart in 30 mins example, and "Restart-At" for a restart at 19:30.
Thanks for considering this.
Regards
/gjs

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dirk Bulinckx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 5:55 PM
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Possible Future Feature Request


> Do you mean that the entry should be place in maintenance for <delay> time
> OR that we should way <delay> time before putting it to maintenance?
>
> If it's "place in maintenance for <delay> time", then the word delay isn't
a
> good word :-)  Maybe some other suggestions for the word?
>
>
>
> Dirk.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> Of mrkirra2001
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 11:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SA-list] Possible Future Feature Request
>
> I hope this V5 functionality extends the MAINTENANCE command line utlity,
> and can handle +30 minutes (or the like).
> Example...
>     maintenance hostname=voyager hostport=4301 hostnumber=1
> action=maintenance delay=30min /start
> That way if the batch file this is in crashes before the restart is
> actioned, the server will be taken out of maintenance and found to be
down.
> I would use this feature at lot!
> Regards
> /gjs
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Dirk Bulinckx
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 4:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Possible Future Feature Request
>
>
> The point is that we don't know exactly when the next scheduled check will
> be.  For each cycle we check if "now" is active or not.  Finding the first
> active moment isn't that easy at all.  AND even more as said before in 99%
> of the cases the next active moment is simply the next cylce, so in 99% of
> the cases that option is simply useless.
> In v5 there will be an option to put an entry into maintenance until ...
> (date/time)
>
>
> Dirk.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> Of Carroll, Andy
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Possible Future Feature Request
>
>
> Dirk / Michael,
>
> Dirks examples seem to cover the sort of functionality I am describing,
see
> separate reply on this slightly earlier.
>
> However as the SysAdmin, I am not the only support person who has access
to
> and controls the Servers Alive Interface, and to make it as fool proof as
> possible, Michael's suggestion of having "right click menu as two options,
> one for the user to enter a time period, and a second to set the
> 'maintenance until' to when the check is set to go on 'maintenance by
> schedule' as an internal calculation?" would be an excellent way to
> implement this, as it would not require the person putting the check into
> maintenance to fully understand the check cycles, they would only need to
> understand that if they put in into maintenance until it was scheduled to
go
> into maintenance, then the check would be re-activated at the correct time
> for the next instance of this check becoming active.
>
> Thank you for continuing to consider this requirement.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf
> Of Dirk Bulinckx
> Sent: 02 July 2004 15:56
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Possible Future Feature Request
>
>
> What is more general then letting the user decide for how long?
>
>
> Dirk.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> Of Michael D. Shook
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 4:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Possible Future Feature Request
>
>
> I understood that, I was proposing something that might meet your request
> "to try to make the tool as general as possible."
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> Of Dirk Bulinckx
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:24 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Possible Future Feature Request
>
>
> IF the schedule makes it that SA isn't doing many check for that specific
> entry , then having a MAINTENANCE until for just 1 hour should not be a
> problem.
> Look at my "other example"
>
> Dirk.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> Of Michael D. Shook
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 4:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Possible Future Feature Request
>
>
> My limited understanding of the issue as proposed:
>
> In order to set the 'maintenance until' to the next scheduled time period
> then, the user has to know what the schedule is, then set the 'maintenance
> until' to run into that time period so that it goes from 'maintenance
until'
> directly to 'maintenance due to schedule'. The problem here is that with a
> large number of checks, I'm not going to remember all the different
> schedules. I would have to open up the check, see what it's schedule was,
> calculate a good time, then cancel out of that, then set the 'maintenance
> until' setting.
>
> What about this, if SA internally kept it as 'maintenance until' BUT
offered
> an option to automatically calculate that time based on the checks
schedule
> if it has one? This could be inserted into the right click menu as two
> options, one for the user to enter a time period, and a second to set the
> 'maintenance until' to when the check is set to go on 'maintenance by
> schedule' as an internal calculation?
>
> Would this solve both user requests and be workable?
>
> Michael Shook
> Technical Analyst
> Saddle Creek Corporation
> 723 Joe Tamplin Industrial Blvd
> Macon GA  31217
> 478 742 8740 ext. 105 (work)
> 478 256 9318 (mobile)
> 478 742 7917 (fax)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.saddlecrk.com
>
>
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> Of Dirk Bulinckx
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Possible Future Feature Request
>
>
> I think you might be misunderstanding how this would work.
> Let me try to explain.
>
> Example:
>     entry_1 has a schedule that says NOT to check on Friday from 6am until
> 8pm
>
>     On Friday at 4am you maunal set it to maintenance (NOT changing the
> schedule!) for 4 hours
>
>     This means that the next cycle let's assume at 4:10am the entry is not
> checked since it's in maintenance.
>     ...
>     At 8am (to be correct first cycle after 8am) we remove the maintenance
> flag (4 hours after the time it was set to maintenance), and we see that
due
> to the schedule is set NOT to be checked -> entry is not checked.
>
>
> First we look at the maintenance/active flag.  And IF that flag gives an
> "active" as result then we check the schedule.
>
> So from what I can understand from what you want to do this should not be
a
> problem.
>
>
> Other example:
>     entry_1 has a schedule that says to check on Wednesday from 8am until
> 9am
>     On Wednesday at 8:15am you put the entry into maintenance for 1 hour
>     On Wednesday at 9:15am we remove the maintenance flag and check the
> schedule and see that we should not check it.
>     ...
>
>
> Do you understand?
>
> Dirk.
>
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