A lot of the answers are in the list archive... If you are adding entries via the GUI you do not need to restart. The only time I add/change via the hosts file(it is an unsupported method) is when I'm doing it in bulk.
When you use TS you are running a separate instance of the desktop. Starting SA in this case is starting a new application. The service is still running on the console. You can edit via the gui from the console, using TS on Win2k3 with the /console switch, or use something like VNC that show the actual console not a remote desktop. The question about "stateful" statistics comes up a lot but I don't see the value in it. What should SA do with the missing time periods? If the state is kept from the last check cycle(assume up) and after the restart it is down should SA assume that it was up the entire time SA was offline? It's a tricky question that I don't think anyone has a clear answer for. Dirk may have more ideas. What kind of statistics reporting are you looking for? System uptime? # of cycles up or down? When I need reports I usually pull the data from the log files or the database entries. Jack Lyons(http://www.lyonsonline.net/jack/Projects/) has some scripts that might help. What are you doing that you add so many entries a day? Is it possible to schedule the additions at midnight so there is one restart and you have 23+ hours of statistics? At least it would provide a consistent set of numbers. Will this be continuous or just while it's being set up? -Kevin -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim A Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SA-list] adding entries to SAlive Understood on the making changes and restarting from scratch. Are there any plans for a future version of SA to pickup where it left off by storing the stats or using the stats that are dumped to a database?? As it is now, this isn't really useful when adding new entries continuously so I'm likely going to have to write all my own stuff for generating useful stats from the database output. And yes, I'm running the GUI through a Terminal Services session. What is the correct method then of having a running service of SA and being able to make manual changes through the GUI or at least see the status of things as the service sees them? Is it best to create a user that the service runs under and then also login (not through terminal services) to run the GUI. NOTE, we do make some minor changes through the GUI but since we are adding approx 15 entries per day semi-automated it doesn't make much sense to use the GUI for that. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:10:27 -0400 > Subject: RE: [SA-list] adding entries to SAlive > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You must restart SA for it to recognize the changes or load via the > menu or telnet the host file. In any case it has the same effect, you > will be starting from zero as far as status and statistics are concerned. > Restarting the service works exactly as expected on my system. > > It sounds like you are running two instances of SA. Are you doing > this through Terminal Services? If so you are starting a separate > application instance of SA and not using the service instance. > > -Kevin > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tim A > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 11:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SA-list] adding entries to SAlive > > Hi all, > > I'm attempting to add entries to Servers Alive externally from the > GUI. I don't know if this is the best way of doing it but I'm adding > lines to the .txt config file that Servers Alive uses and that works > well except for Servers Alive not recognizing the new entries until > the service is restarted. The issue there is that once the service is > restarted all stats are wiped out and things start from scratch. Also, > it seems that the SA service needs to be stopped completely and then > started again rather than using the "restart service". At least it seems to me when "restart service" > is used it doesn't recognize the changes to the .txt file. > > So, is there some way of getting servers alive to recognize changes to > the config file without a restart? Or is there a better way of adding > entries programmatically outside of the GUI? > > On another note, there seems to be a disconnect between the instance > of SA running as a service and an instance started via GUI. > Is this normal or is there some way to have these interact together as > one would expect? > > Regards, > Tim > > ------------------------- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > To unsubscribe from a list, send a mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > With the following in the body of the message: > unsubscribe SAlive > > > > > ------------------------- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > To unsubscribe from a list, send a mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > With the following in the body of the message: > unsubscribe SAlive > ------------------------- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] To unsubscribe from a list, send a mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the following in the body of the message: unsubscribe SAlive ------------------------- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] To unsubscribe from a list, send a mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the following in the body of the message: unsubscribe SAlive
