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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ferrell, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:06 AM
To: salive@woodstone.nu
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Servers Alive Service

Our creative approach to put a stop to this practice was to add a check
to
SA for two occurrences of serversalive.exe and send a page to the
offending
individuals. 

Jim Ferrell
EDS - Allison Transmission
4700 W 10th St
Mail Code 462-470-H04
Indianapolis, IN  46222

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Of Michael Letschin
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:17 AM
To: salive@woodstone.nu
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Servers Alive Service

I run the service, however I often do my maintenance through a terminal
services session.  We had the same problem.  One of the guys here wrote
a
script that we put on the all users desktop that opens a command prompt,
stops the service and opens the app, then when you close the app it
automatically restarts the service.  Seems to have resolved our issues.
Send me an email off list if you want the script.

Michael Letschin

Network Administrator

Registry Safe-Rent

888-881-3400

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Of Gibson, Richard (IHG)
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:20 AM
To: 'salive@woodstone.nu'
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Servers Alive Service

Thanks for that - that's much clearer.

Cheers

Richard.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Of David Webster
Sent: 13 April 2005 13:31
To: salive@woodstone.nu
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Servers Alive Service


I think of the service as the program that does the actual checking and
the
application (also called the GUI) as a tool for creating/editing the
configuration of checks, alerts etc. used by the service.  With the
service
stopped, run the application and setup your checks and alerts.
If you do checks that require authentication, e.g. services, put the
credentials required in the checks themselves.  Use the format
domain\username for windows checks.  Save the host file and exit the
application.  Set the service to run as SYSTEM with desktop interaction.
Start the service.  It will start a "copy" of the application that can
be
used while the service is running to review information, check status of
items, etc., but not to edit using this copy of the GUI.  If you want to
make changes, stop the service, run the application, make the changes,
save
and exit the app, and re-start the service.

Hope this helps.

David

PS make sure you are not doing this from a terminal services session.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
Of Gibson, Richard (IHG)
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:05 AM
To: Servers Alive Support List (salive@woodstone.nu)
Subject: [SA-list] Servers Alive Service

Could someone please explain how SA the Service works with SA the
Application. Are they one and the same thing, with just the service
running
all the time whether the server is logged on or not, and the application
providing the interface to add and remove checks? Or are they separate
entities, as one can be run without the other. Do they use the same
setup,
config and host files?

The reason I ask is that I am currently setting up SA 5.0 and have seen
a
couple of anomalies when running both the service and the application at
the
same time - I update the setup in the application interface, then when I
restart the service I lose the updates. The HTML status summary seems to
have stopped updating since I last restarted the service, and they
initially
appeared to be using different credentials for connecting to services,
until
I set the service to start using the domain credentials.

Thanks in advance. 

Richard Gibson 


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