yep it will save them (that is IF the service has write access to that file 
:-)) 
 

Dirk Bulinckx.  

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Ah! Got you now. So, just to be absolutely clear: IF SA is running as a 
service, AND the "Save Changes..." option is set, AND the entries filename is 
known, THEN changes will automatically be saved? Great! 

Had me worried for a minute... ;-) 

Ian 
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I think I didn't explain well what I wanted to say: 
  
  
SA running as service and "save changes.." option is NOT set 
-> changes are not saved and you are NOT prompted to do so 
-> all other cases IF you did a change then you will be asked if you want to 
save (or if the filename of the entries file is already known, then it will be 
saved to that file). 
  
  
SA running as app 
-> question if you realy want to quit 
  
SA runnign as service 
-> question if you realy want to quit is NOT asked 
  

Dirk Bulinckx. 

 


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??? Sorry, I've missed something critical here. Changes aren't saved 
automatically when running as a service? I don't understand the logic of that. 
We (and I would guess most people) run SA as a service, and if the changes 
aren't being saved then I'm in serious danger of losing changes whenever 
systems are rebooted for patching or whatever. Surely if you don't want this, 
you should untick the option? Am I misunderstanding this? 

Ian 
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Service: this was requested by our uses to NOT have this when running as a 
service; making a change -> FILE-SAVE. 
 
Priority: if you make a change to the setup and it's not saved, then OR you're 
running service and app at the same time and looking at the service that kept 
running while doing the change in the app OR you're not running as a user that 
has admin rights on the local system. 
 
RRD: each time you add entries to Servers Alive you need to create a new db for 
each of those entries.  There is an RRD file per entry. 
 
  

Dirk Bulinckx. 




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Subject: AW: [SA-list] SA as Service, no automatic change saving on exit / 
priority / RRD + check times

Hello Dirk, 
 
thanks first for fast reply :) 
 
Service: In the Setup/General/Misc Settings you can check "Automatically save 
changes on exit (to a file). This worked on the old Server when SA was not 
configured as Service. When I now e.g. add an entry and restart server or SA 
service, the changes are not being saved. 
 
Priority: Logging to log file is disabled. I tried to turn it on, but every 
time I enter needed data into setup/logging/Logfile/to file and save that, 
nothing happens. When I check again these settings, logging is again disabled 
and all parameters are set to default!? I imported the hostfile and reg entries 
from the old server, there SA was installed on c:, now on d:! Probably there's 
a problem...? 
 
RRD: I checked this again and there are now really both times added. What I 
found out is, that when checks are stopped and then the RRD DB is created, SA 
writes only the "checks-done-value" without adding the duration (as it was in 
my case). When checks are started, both values are added! 
So this means also, when adding some new checks the RRD DB should be 
recreated?! 
 
 


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Von: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von 
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2007 10:26
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Betreff: RE: [SA-list] SA as Service, no automatic change saving on exit / 
priority / RRD + check times

Service: what exact setting are you talking about? 
 
Priority: what does the logfile show as reason for not checking those entries? 
 
RRD: did you have SA create the "create" file before it did a checkcycle?  SA 
will use the interval time + the time it took to do a checkcycle (that is IF a 
checkcycle was already done). 
  

Dirk Bulinckx. 




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From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Danijel Brncic
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:16 AM
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Subject: [SA-list] SA as Service, no automatic change saving on exit / priority 
/ RRD + check times

Hello @ all, 
 
We updated SA to v6 and moved it to a new Server, both worked fine! But I have 
three questions: 
 
SA Service: 
Now SA runs as a service on a Win XP Machine. I experienced, that the automatic 
change saving to the host file is not working now. When I restart the service 
all changes are gone... 
Is this common and/or intended? 
 
Priority: 
Some checks are done with priority "1 of 100" and "start cycle 1". When I start 
SA, some of those are checked in the first cycle, other not though all are 
configured identically. 
Where could be the problem? 
 
RRD + checktimes: 
Our checks are running every one minute. So, SA makes a round (takes about one 
minute). Then RRD Data is written. After that SA waits one minute to start a 
new cycle. 
In the sa_Create_RRD Script the parameter for the check cycle is set to 60 sec. 
Isn't this wrong because of checks are done as described every two minutes?! 
 
TIA 
 
Danijel Brncic 
 
 
  


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