Sounds like a cunning plan - and as I've been wanting to do some modifications 
to the graphs (size, scales etc) I could incorporate that. The major headache 
would, however, be the administration as you point out. Would you be willing to 
share your spreadsheet/macros? 

Of course, an even better solution (back to Dirk) would be a more sophisticated 
graphing front end within SA - either to create custom graphs on demand instead 
of batch files producing them every x minutes, or more options for what sort of 
graphs are generated. I guess the alternative is to use a completely different 
tool to manipulate the RRD databases generated by SA - I keep thinking about 
trying to install Cactus, but I always pull back because of the added 
complexity. 

Ian 
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"Brett Hanson" <bhan...@agrium.com> 
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05/02/2009 17:40 Please respond to
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RRDTool Graphing Frequency 




I had a similar situation.  What I've done instead is modified the graph rrd 
batch file to do nothing, setup my own batch files to generate graphs on 10 
minute, 30 minute, hourly and daily frequencies.  These batch files are set up 
as scheduled tasks.  For example: 
 
generate_graphs_10_min.cmd has: 
call graph_hour.cmd 
 
generate_graphs_30_min.cmd has: 
call graph_day.cmd 
 
generat_graphs_hourly.cmd has: 
call graph_week.cmd 
 
generate_graphs_daily.cmd has: 
call graph_month.cmd 
call graph_year.cmd 

graph_hour.cmd has all the hourly graph generation items 
...rrdtool.exe graph ....-s -3600 --imgformat PNG ... 
 
and so on... 
 
This, of course, makes maintenance a bit of a nightmare, so I put together a 
spreadsheet to read the SAlive host file and use macros to generate the 
individual batch files. 
 
My only real problem with this is that I have to be very careful about creating 
new entries as I accidentally ran the generate script once and it overwrote the 
existing RRD databases, discarding more than a year's worth of data.  I didn't 
notice this quick enough to make it worthwhile going to backups. 
 
Regards, 
 
Brett Hanson 
Systems Analyst 
Agrium, Inc. 

>>> "Dirk" <d...@woodstone.nu> 2/5/2009 5:55 AM >>> 
Currently that is not possible, but it does look like a great idea to add 
that.. 
 
Dirk Bulinckx. 
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ian.g...@okieurope.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:45 PM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: [SA-list] RRDTool Graphing Frequency 
 

I've started producing Up/Down graphs from RRDTool as well as CHK and RTR. The 
trouble is, it takes longer to produce the graphs than the interval between one 
graph.bat starting and the next. I'm therefore getting an infinitely increasing 
number of batch files running. 

I can work around this in the short term by increasing the interval between 
checks, but that's not desirable. Is there a way to specify how often graphs 
are produced? In other words, is it possible (or *would* it be possible, Dirk) 
to say that I only want the graph batch file to run (say) every 2nd check 
cycle? 

Cheers, 

Ian 
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