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mike, hi, not entirely sure what happened here but the samba technical archives appear to be having difficulties displaying a message that i was able to access from someone else's browser, yesterday. from memory, if i recall correctly, you mentioned something about me giving samba a "fait accompli" - is that right? i'm so so sorry if i have the wrong end of the stick on this one and it wasn't you that said that. i really do have to point out that if you _did_ say that, it could not be further from the truth. as gerry rightly points out, i have no authority, and never did - as do none of us. all i can do is make suggestions: this _particular_ suggestion has an added incentive for it to be accepted - that _if_ it is accepted, the foundation receives lots of code. that's the carrot - putting it bluntly. the stick is that if the members that i assume would be there break the conditions of the charter - they lose what they were given. now, i've been thinking a bit more since i sent that message. on the basis that should the directors break the conditions of the charter, they'd likely get a bit more than a slapped wrist - on reflection, the "stick" conditions that i initially proposed _probably_ aren't even necessary. especially as these charters (e.g. the ASF's) are legally binding (usually in delaware :) ... what could be worse for [the proposed] SSF board members than to break the conditions of the charter that they are there to uphold? sincerely, l. ___________________________________________________________ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba