Ilia Chipitsine schrieb:

Hi,
is it possible to create the user profiles by copying a template, change file ownership and modify the SID in NTUSER.DAT using the profile tool?
We have many problems with broken profiles. This has become time consuming

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there're few tips which I came to after using roaming profiles for several years, those tips will significately reduce number of problems with roaming profiles:


1) watch that profiles are less than 30Mb (number of files also is important)

2) when user first logs in, if there no profile exists, "Default User" profile is taken from \\$LOGONSERVER\NETLOGON, so you can have special default profile for new users. otherwise local "Default User" profile is taken.

3) redirect common folders like Desktop, My Documents out of roaming profile. they can live on network share in user's home directory, but not in the roaming profile. this can be achived either by manipulating registry directly or by using nt4 style domain policies, I can even send You custom ADM template for that.

Outlook.pst can also be redirected out of roaming profile.
simply move it to another place and start MS Outlook, it will ask You where to find outlook.pst


4) be careful with terminal services. samba doesn't understand separate profiles for terminal services, so you can ruin roaming profile.

5) make sure you are using the same version of Windows on all computers.
w2k <--> xp can also break many things in profile

6) make sure other things than Windows are the same on all computers.
particularly MS Office.

7) You can create "profile backup system",

put, for example

regedit /e \\SERVER\share\%UserName%-of2k3.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0"

at logon script and after that You can easily delete broken profile and restore required things from backup.

8) xp behave weird on roaming profiles.
even if You reqiure "delete cached copies of roaming profiles on exit", xp leaves copy and !!! if You delete network copy of roaming profile (in order to create profile from "Default User"), xp picks up local cached copy. so, in such case You need to remove both network and local cached copy of profile. no idea how to make xp delete it on exit.


and frustrating - when a user experiences an error or weird behaviour of an application I can never be sure wether the cause is a "wrong user error", a broken profile or defect in installation. If I want all users or groups of users to have the same profile I should be able to create it for them.
I already use the "default user", but with that I only can make a profile mandatory after the user's first logoff.
I could try myself, but I sometimes experience that "tricks" that work at first and look good have some side effects I didn't think of, so I would appreciate comments from people who tried that, or maybe someone knows why this is rather a bad idea.


With kind regards,
Malte Mueller


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Thanks a lot Ilia!

We have 200 PC and nearly all have a reborn-card or such, which prevents any lokal changes, so local copies of profiles do not exist. Users log in very often to different Computers and need to have a defined environment i.e. an available profile. I already use a "default user"-profile and redirected folders (thanks John, the book helped a lot). Nevertheless I feel that I cannot rely on the profiles' integrety once a user had a chance to modify it. Making a registry copy is a good tip, i will use that, at least for some users. But rather than backing up I would very much appreciate to set up a defined profile for each user. I think it would make life a lot easier for me (and the users).

With kind regards
Malte Mueller
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