Helmut Hullen wrote:
Hallo, Linda,
The actual version is 3.0.31 - I had some trouble with versions below
3.0.29 (and much trouble with 3.0.23 ...)
Viele Gruesse!
Helmut
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Hallo Helmut!
Thanks for the info...maybe my sup^h^h^hrepository is not as up-to-date
as it should be. I've no problem upgrading to new ver...I could try installing
the samba from SuSE11, but SuSE is bad about adding excess package
dependencies.
They tend to make one package dependent on "the world" (hyperbole)....so
upgrading
to samba from suse11...well lets see what it says...
Yup (**I feel a rant coming on...warning...sanity in question**):
share/suse11/i586# rpm -Uhv --test samba-3.2.0-22.1.i586.rpm
samba-client-3.2.0-22.1.i586.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
liblber-2.4.so.2 is needed by samba-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libldap-2.4.so.2 is needed by samba-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libtalloc.so.1 is needed by samba-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libtalloc.so.1(TALLOC_1.2) is needed by samba-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libtdb.so.1 is needed by samba-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libtdb.so.1(TDB_1.1) is needed by samba-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libwbclient.so.0 is needed by samba-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libwbclient.so.0(WBCLIENT_0.1) is needed by samba-3.2.0-22.1.i586
liblber-2.4.so.2 is needed by samba-client-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libldap-2.4.so.2 is needed by samba-client-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libtalloc.so.1 is needed by samba-client-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libtalloc.so.1(TALLOC_1.2) is needed by samba-client-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libtdb.so.1 is needed by samba-client-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libtdb.so.1(TDB_1.1) is needed by samba-client-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libwbclient.so.0 is needed by samba-client-3.2.0-22.1.i586
libwbclient.so.0(WBCLIENT_0.1) is needed by samba-client-3.2.0-22.1.i586
They are pretty bad about handling dependencies to allow packages to be
portable between releases -- no belief in changing "1 thing" at a time...(poor
engineering in my personal opinion)...
Example: I don't use ldap (yet), so why should I care about ldap updates --
they should be packaged separately so parts I don't use won't force other
packages to be updated.
Windows has linux beaten hands down in this area. Unneeded functions are in
NON-loaded DLL's, and if you don't use that function, you don't need the DLL.
Lack of a non-used DLL won't cause a fatal load error -- but in linux, run-time
linking (vs. load-time) is rarely done.
Most of those I can upgrade to suse11...but when I get to liblber and
libldap
(the ones I DONT USE!!!)...everything complains about an update attempt:
share/suse11# grp liblber *.txt
filelist-i586.txt:i586/openldap2-client-2.4.9-7.1.i586.rpm:
/usr/lib/liblber-2.4.so.2
filelist-i586.txt:i586/openldap2-client-2.4.9-7.1.i586.rpm:
/usr/lib/liblber-2.4.so.2.0.5
(files in openldap2-client, so try to upgrade that...and get:...)
hare/suse11# rpm -Uhv i586/openldap2-client-2.4.9-7.1.i586.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) autofs-5.0.2-30.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) lighttpd-1.4.17-11.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) dhcp-server-3.0.6-24.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) ldapcpplib-0.0.4-96.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) libsmbclient-3.0.26a-3.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) pwdutils-3.1.4-27.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) pwlib-1.10.7-61.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) sendmail-8.14.1-53.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) squid-beta-3.0-351.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) rmail-8.14.1-53.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) dirmngr-1.0.0-19.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) samba-client-3.0.26a-3.i586
liblber-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) samba-3.0.26a-3.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) nfsidmap-0.20-21.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) lighttpd-1.4.17-11.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) dhcp-server-3.0.6-24.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) ldapcpplib-0.0.4-96.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) libsmbclient-3.0.26a-3.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) pwdutils-3.1.4-27.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) pwlib-1.10.7-61.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) sendmail-8.14.1-53.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) squid-beta-3.0-351.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) sudo-1.6.9p2-23.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) gpg2-2.0.4-49.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) rmail-8.14.1-53.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) dirmngr-1.0.0-19.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) samba-client-3.0.26a-3.i586
libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) samba-3.0.26a-3.i586
libldap_r-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) autofs-5.0.2-30.i586
libldap_r-2.3.so.0 is needed by (installed) pwlib-1.10.7-61.i586
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All for libraries and functions that I don't use -- completely
WORTHLESS.
This is what I mean by bad engineering -- lib ldap should be a run-time library
that
is loaded as it is used -- and if I don't use ldap, it wouldn't try to load it
and
it wouldn't give me fatal errors. I don't know how many of the above would
fail on
initial load or randomly during usage -- but from experience, such dependencies
may quite
often cause the util or tool to just "not load" at all because of a load-time
failure for
an unneeded function!
So far, I haven't had any luck in explaining to anyone at SuSE who
might care,
why this is "bad" or poor practice. (My persuasive skills in such situations
are
sorely lacking...)...
:-(
Linda
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