I don't use a cacheing proxy server since I took a lot of heat from my users, that the
webpages were not up to date. Example, many webpages change minute by minute and these
changes are not reflected in what these folks get for a webpage (Stock prices, weather
changes like radar displays, etc). However, if you really do want to explore this
further, I suggest you go on cnet (http://www.cnet.com) and take a look at the list of
proxys there. I did this a long time ago and am not up to date on the current products.
Dave...
On 12/Jun/2002 08:20:18, Rodney Richison wrote:
> Umm, I just read the Sambar Doc's on proxy and it said it does not "cache".
> It has not caching engine. Suggestions?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Culbertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:06 AM
> Subject: [sambar] tweaks {08}
>
>
> > Sure, if the file is in your proxy cache already, it's like having the
> file on your local hard disk available immediately. You won't see the delays
> in the download that you normally get (during the download) when you go to
> MS Windows Update. The problem is that you can't really control what you
> keep in the proxy itself. It's a FIFO system whereby a file only lives in
> the proxy for a certain period of time. This can be very good when Microsoft
> issues a new critical update and if you have dial-up users (or Networked LAN
> users) who all want the update within a short period of time. The downfall
> is that if a site is updated and you have the older version proxied that
> there is the worry that you present the older version of the webpage or file
> to the caller. It's similiar to looking something up on google then clicking
> on a hot link to the file versus clicking on the cached version of the same
> link. Some proxied systems have smarts in regard to this taking a look at
> the file to see if there are changes and if so replacing the file in the
> cache or proxy.
> >
> > Dave Culbertson
> >
> >
> > On 11/Jun/2002 23:15:26, Rodney Richison wrote:
> > > Dave, in the other forum that I'm a member of "ascii forum" for
> computer
> > > bussiness owners, a guy just made this statement. Could it be true?
> > > **********************************************
> > > Dealing with constant downloads of MS updates is one area where a
> caching
> > > proxy server is helpful. If the download is already in the proxy cache,
> the
> > > download happens instantly.
> > >
> ***************************************************************************
> > >
> > > If so, we fixin to proxy dude!! With sambar!!
> > >
> > > BTW, if your not an ascii member, you should be. It's 100.00 monthly and
> the
> > > benifits are well worth it with TD and Ingram etc.. The discounts with
> > > these venders and others will pay your dues. If you've any questions,
> just
> > > ask off forum and I'll tell you all about it!
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dave Culbertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:56 PM
> > > Subject: [sambar] tweaks {06}
> > >
> > >
> > > > Rodney,
> > > >
> > > > I own a computer store also (have been in the business fulltime since
> > > 1979) and we both know that there are always people who are never
> satified
> > > no matter what you do. Just take what you can from the list and watch
> and
> > > wait. You'll find that the complainers eventually dissappear after they
> have
> > > done all the damage that they can.
> > > >
> > > > This does not mean that any one webmaster can't ask for help until
> they
> > > finally solve the problem. I've needed help and gotten it from the list
> and
> > > so has most of the members. Sambar is A-OK in my book and I've worked
> with a
> > > number of other webservers as well. It's enough to say that I use Sambar
> and
> > > not any of the others.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Culbertson
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/Jun/2002 14:53:07, Rodney Richison wrote:
> > > > > Granted, I'm the worst webmaster here. So I may not do some of the
> > > things
> > > > > you guys attempt with sambar. It has been really stable (my #1
> feature).
> > > > > And James Wright has pulled my butt out of the fire more than once,
> so
> > > the
> > > > > support has been awsome! :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I may not be much of a webmaster, but I do own a computer store,
> thus
> > > it's
> > > > > not much of a problem to put alot of power under the hood so to
> speak!
> > > > >
> > > > > Post like these though make me second guess my decission with sambar
> > > though.
> > > > > Even if I've not had a lick of problems from it. Then I think, why?
> I
> > > have
> > > > > no problems! None!
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Steffen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:20 AM
> > > > > Subject: [sambar] tweaks {04}
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > [quote Adreas]
> > > > > > Because there are many unsolved problems and nobody
> > > > > > is able to help the users. You buy a non-working product for
> something
> > > > > about
> > > > > > 100 USD and you aren't getting some support.
> > > > > > [/quote]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suffering also with lot's of (little) problems.
> > > > > > Agree, only when some users are willing to help.
> > > > > > At least there must be a mimimum Support organisation for users
> who
> > > payed.
> > > > > > Open source does it better.
> > > > > > That's a problem with most "one guy" products.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sambar runs here together with a IRC and a Newsgroup server with a
> > > Pentium
> > > > > > II 333Mhz and a old 8 gig 5200 harddisk and 128 Mb Ram.
> > > > > > We have now ~ 400 unique visitors with ~15000 hits a day (most
> > > readers),
> > > > > and
> > > > > > I think still no need to upgrade.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Andreas Joos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:54 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [sambar] tweaks {03}
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I read the discussion of making a proxy more powerfull. I'm very
> > > amazed
> > > > > > > about the discussion. Rodney asked to speedup a proxy server.
> 768
> > > meg
> > > > > and
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > 1800 MHZ cpu should be enough for a proxy. The more ram, the
> more
> > > better
> > > > > > > would not be right. You will run in the case where putting 256
> meg
> > > or
> > > > > 515
> > > > > > > meg in the server will result in the increase of 1% performance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 4 CPUs????? 8 CPUs????? 16 CPUs???????? Only when the
> application
> > > is
> > > > > able
> > > > > > > to use more cpu's - when it is smp build - then more cpu's will
> make
> > > > > > sense.
> > > > > > > Informations on RAID: <A
> HREF="http://www.raid.com";>www.raid.com</A>
> > > or <A HREF="http://www.raid.de";>www.raid.de</A> .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, in my opinion when you need a machine with more then 256 MB
> for
> > > a
> > > > > > > proxie, kick the proxy away. Some prof. firewalls will work with
> 128
> > > > > megs
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > ram with aceptable speed!!!!!! I don't know it it would be the
> best
> > > way
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > kick sambar away anyway. Because there are many unsolved
> problems
> > > and
> > > > > > nobody
> > > > > > > is able to help the users. You buy a non-working product for
> > > something
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > 100 USD and you aren't getting some support.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > mit freundlichen Gr��en / Best regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andreas Joos
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > From: "Holger Lembke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [sambar] tweaks {02}
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here's the question. How much ram would you put in it? Is
> 768meg
> > > > > > > > > enough? How
> > > > > > > > > can I make sambar the faster gun in town? Gimmie some tweaks
> > > > > > > > > here relating
> > > > > > > > > to sambar and NT.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Install more CPUs. 4, 8 or 16....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What raid? 7200 rpm is to low, take 10.000 rpm. Oh, serial ata
> > > rulz.
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