WOW, i had ISDN for 2 years and the per minute charges killed me. Have you looked into 
getting DSL??? I've saved a fortune in the past 2 years with this and the 
download/upload rate is far faster.

Dave...

On 12/Jun/2002 09:25:54, Rodney Richison wrote:
> The sole purpose, idea is to get windows updates faster. I do critical
> updates to every machine that comes into the shop and only have isdn.  :(
> 
> That's all I want it for.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Culbertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:16 AM
> Subject: [sambar] tweaks {10}
> 
> 
> > I don't use a cacheing proxy server since I took a lot of heat from my
> users, that the webpages were not up to date. Example, many webpages change
> minute by minute and these changes are not reflected in what these folks get
> for a webpage (Stock prices, weather changes like radar displays, etc).
> However, if you really do want to explore this further, I suggest you go on
> cnet (<A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.cnet.com";>http://www.cnet.com</A>) and 
>take a look at the list of proxys there. I
> did this a long time ago and am not up to date on the current products.
> >
> > Dave...
> >
> > On 12/Jun/2002 08:20:18, Rodney Richison wrote:
> > > Umm,  I just read the Sambar Doc's on proxy and it said it does not
> "cache".
> > > It has not caching engine.  Suggestions?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dave Culbertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:06 AM
> > > Subject: [sambar] tweaks {08}
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sure, if the file is in your proxy cache already, it's like having the
> > > file on your local hard disk available immediately. You won't see the
> delays
> > > in the download that you normally get (during the download) when you go
> to
> > > MS Windows Update. The problem is that you can't really control what you
> > > keep in the proxy itself. It's a FIFO system whereby a file only lives
> in
> > > the proxy for a certain period of time. This can be very good when
> Microsoft
> > > issues a new critical update and if you have dial-up users (or Networked
> LAN
> > > users) who all want the update within a short period of time. The
> downfall
> > > is that if a site is updated and you have the older version proxied that
> > > there is the worry that you present the older version of the webpage or
> file
> > > to the caller. It's similiar to looking something up on google then
> clicking
> > > on a hot link to the file versus clicking on the cached version of the
> same
> > > link. Some proxied systems have smarts in regard to this taking a look
> at
> > > the file to see if there are changes and if so replacing the file in the
> > > cache or proxy.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Culbertson
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/Jun/2002 23:15:26, Rodney Richison wrote:
> > > > > Dave, in the other forum that I'm a member of  "ascii forum" for
> > > computer
> > > > > bussiness owners, a guy just made this statement. Could it be true?
> > > > > **********************************************
> > > > > Dealing with constant downloads of MS updates is one area where a
> > > caching
> > > > > proxy server is helpful.  If the download is already in the proxy
> cache,
> > > the
> > > > > download happens instantly.
> > > > >
> > >
> ***************************************************************************
> > > > >
> > > > > If so, we fixin to proxy dude!!  With sambar!!
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, if your not an ascii member, you should be. It's 100.00 monthly
> and
> > > the
> > > > > benifits are well worth it with TD and Ingram etc..  The discounts
> with
> > > > > these venders and others will pay your dues. If you've any
> questions,
> > > just
> > > > > ask off forum and I'll tell you all about it!
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Dave Culbertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:56 PM
> > > > > Subject: [sambar] tweaks {06}
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Rodney,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I own a computer store also (have been in the business fulltime
> since
> > > > > 1979) and we both know that there are always people who are never
> > > satified
> > > > > no matter what you do. Just take what you can from the list and
> watch
> > > and
> > > > > wait. You'll find that the complainers eventually dissappear after
> they
> > > have
> > > > > done all the damage that they can.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This does not mean that any one webmaster can't ask for help until
> > > they
> > > > > finally solve the problem. I've needed help and gotten it from the
> list
> > > and
> > > > > so has most of the members. Sambar is A-OK in my book and I've
> worked
> > > with a
> > > > > number of other webservers as well. It's enough to say that I use
> Sambar
> > > and
> > > > > not any of the others.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave Culbertson
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/Jun/2002 14:53:07, Rodney Richison wrote:
> > > > > > > Granted, I'm the worst webmaster here. So I may not do some of
> the
> > > > > things
> > > > > > > you guys attempt with sambar. It has been really stable (my #1
> > > feature).
> > > > > > > And James Wright has pulled my butt out of the fire more than
> once,
> > > so
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > support has been awsome!   :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I may not be much of a webmaster, but I do own a computer store,
> > > thus
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > not much of a problem to put alot of power under the hood so to
> > > speak!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Post like these though make me second guess my decission with
> sambar
> > > > > though.
> > > > > > > Even if I've not had a lick of problems from it. Then I think,
> why?
> > > I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > no problems!  None!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Steffen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:20 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [sambar] tweaks {04}
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [quote Adreas]
> > > > > > > > Because there are many unsolved problems and nobody
> > > > > > > > is able to help the users. You buy a non-working product for
> > > something
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > 100 USD and you aren't getting some support.
> > > > > > > > [/quote]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I suffering also with lot's of (little) problems.
> > > > > > > > Agree, only when some users are willing to help.
> > > > > > > > At least there must be a mimimum Support organisation for
> users
> > > who
> > > > > payed.
> > > > > > > > Open source does it better.
> > > > > > > > That's a problem with most "one guy" products.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sambar runs here together with a IRC and a Newsgroup server
> with a
> > > > > Pentium
> > > > > > > > II 333Mhz and a old 8 gig 5200 harddisk and 128 Mb Ram.
> > > > > > > > We have now ~ 400 unique visitors with ~15000 hits a day (most
> > > > > readers),
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > I think still no need to upgrade.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Andreas Joos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:54 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [sambar] tweaks {03}
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I read the discussion of making a proxy more powerfull. I'm
> very
> > > > > amazed
> > > > > > > > > about the discussion. Rodney asked to speedup a proxy
> server.
> > > 768
> > > > > meg
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > 1800 MHZ cpu should be enough for a proxy. The more ram, the
> > > more
> > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > would not be right. You will run in the case where putting
> 256
> > > meg
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > 515
> > > > > > > > > meg in the server will result in the increase of 1%
> performance.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 4 CPUs?????  8 CPUs????? 16 CPUs???????? Only when the
> > > application
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > able
> > > > > > > > > to use more cpu's - when it is smp build - then more cpu's
> will
> > > make
> > > > > > > > sense.
> > > > > > > > > Informations on RAID: <A
> > > HREF="http://www.raid.com";>www.raid.com</A>
> > > > > or <A HREF="http://www.raid.de";>www.raid.de</A> .
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, in my opinion when you need a machine with more then 256
> MB
> > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > proxie, kick the proxy away. Some prof. firewalls will work
> with
> > > 128
> > > > > > > megs
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > ram with aceptable speed!!!!!! I don't know it it would be
> the
> > > best
> > > > > way
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > kick sambar away anyway. Because there are many unsolved
> > > problems
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > nobody
> > > > > > > > > is able to help the users. You buy a non-working product for
> > > > > something
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > 100 USD and you aren't getting some support.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > mit freundlichen Gr��en / Best regards
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Andreas Joos
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > From: "Holger Lembke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [sambar] tweaks {02}
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Here's the question. How much ram would you put in it?
> Is
> > > 768meg
> > > > > > > > > > > enough? How
> > > > > > > > > > > can I make sambar the faster gun in town? Gimmie some
> tweaks
> > > > > > > > > > > here relating
> > > > > > > > > > > to sambar and NT.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Install more CPUs. 4, 8 or 16....
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What raid? 7200 rpm is to low, take 10.000 rpm. Oh, serial
> ata
> > > > > rulz.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
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