At 18:49 9-10-2002, you wrote:

>On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 18:22:29 +0200, Melvyn Sopacua wrote:
>
> > you
> > 're not even considering charset issues: e.g.: is the unicode char for the
> > euro sent to the browser as € or as numerical entity or as
> > doublebyte character, or as ISO-8815-1 international currency symbol, as it
> > originates from a machine conforming to 'the other standard'?
>
>    When the log file contains "€" I want to see "€" on the screen,
>and not the interpretation of that tag.

No - when it contains the bytecode for the euro, does it have to be sent as-is
or translated to €? That's what I meant.

>   Thanks for reminding this, so not only the "<" and ">" have to be
>translated, but the "&", too. I guess, it would be a "&&".

Actually:
 > => &gt;
< => &lt;
" => &quot;
' => &squot;
& => &amp;

>   No, the charset of the frame where the log file is being shown is the same
>as the screen,

The charset is determined by the Content-Type HTTP header and if not available,
by the default set in the user prefs.


>  which is probably Latin-1, or whatever. I want the log file to
>appear identical as possible as the actual data in the log file, so 
>everything
>which could be interpreted as a command to the browser should be changed, so
>that the actual command is being shown, and not interpreted.
>
> >
> > But like I said - as long as there remains an option to get the pure data
> > via the sysadmin interface, I don't have a problem with it.
>
>   You always will see it thru a browser

You say 'see' - I say 'get'. There's a fundamental difference.
I prefer __not__ to view logs through a browser as I'm never sure, if it's
displaying it correctly. Think, gzip encoding, charsets, buggy HTML escaping,
partial content, through buffering, etc.


>And getting that is difficult, since Sambar prevents other processes
>to view the file, and I also don't see a way to breakpoint the log file, so
>that I can look at the closed part while Sambar continues to run and writing
>in the actual log file.

Which is exactly why there should remain an option to get unescaped data.


With kind regards,

Melvyn Sopacua
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