Rafael, não vi ninguém ser mal tratado aqui. Se você se refere as besteiras que o Mantovani posta de vez enquando, é só ignorar...
Mantovani, na moral: Você ainda tem muito a aprender sobre atitude! Quando eu te conheci você não sabia nem falar direito. Você teve MUITA, mas MUITA sorte(=competência + oportunidade) mesmo de ter sido bem guiado, e mais sorte ainda de não ter apanhado pela sua extrema falta de educação! Não! Não acho que títulos querem dizer m@!da nenhuma! Vale muito mais atitude! Atitude fazem profissionais, e não títulos! Porém, é verdade que se você tem a atitude de aproveitar bem uma faculdade, você terá 'vantagens'. Essas vantagens podem resumir-se, bem superficialmente, ao arcabouço acadêmico. Meio óbvio, mas verdade! Você terá oportunidade e acesso a conhecimento de maneira mais fácil e, se precisar, terás professores para lhe ajudar a aprender a se virar. Pra mim essa foi a única vantagem. Só que nada disso adianta, se você não tiver o mínimo de interesse, curiosidade, 'tato', alguma habilidade social, e EXTREMA força-de-vontade = disciplina . Isso sim são qualidades de um bom profissional ao meu ver. Seja em TI, seja em qualquer outra área! O resto é 'mimimi' do povo de RH e experiência que se obtém com o tempo... Cheers! 2013/2/13 Tiago Peczenyj <tiago.pecze...@gmail.com> > > > 2013/2/13 Suissa <jnascime...@gmail.com> > >> Engraçada nossa área, deve ser a única profissão que a galera que não fez >> faculdade se acha mais que a galera que fez. >> > > Jornalismo tb acha. > > >> >> >> Em 13 de fevereiro de 2013 15:21, Daniel de Oliveira Mantovani < >> daniel.oliveira.mantov...@gmail.com> escreveu: >> >> 2013/2/13 Tiago Peczenyj <tiago.pecze...@gmail.com>: >>> > 2013/2/13 Daniel de Oliveira Mantovani < >>> daniel.oliveira.mantov...@gmail.com> >>> >> >>> >> 2013/2/13 Tiago Peczenyj <tiago.pecze...@gmail.com>: >>> >> > Eles tinham concluido o curso? >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> Sim. >>> > >>> > >>> > Ainda assim esses caras são mais capacitados. >>> >>> Porque? >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > 2013/2/13 Daniel de Oliveira Mantovani >>> >> > <daniel.oliveira.mantov...@gmail.com> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Eu conversei com um pessoal da UNESP e eles não sabiam a diferença >>> >> >> entre arquitetura e linguagem.* >>> >> >> >>> >> >> 2013/2/13 Daniel de Oliveira Mantovani >>> >> >> <daniel.oliveira.mantov...@gmail.com>: >>> >> >> > Exatamente Gustavo, e não só são faculdades particulares. Eu >>> >> >> > convertei >>> >> >> > com um pessoal da UNESP e eles não sabiam a diferença de >>> arquitetura >>> >> >> > e >>> >> >> > linguagem. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > 2013/2/13 Gustavo Telly <gustavo.te...@gmail.com>: >>> >> >> >> é só fazer uma Uni-duni-tê ai qualquer que ta tudo certo, hahaha >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Em 13 de fevereiro de 2013 14:54, Daniel de Oliveira Mantovani >>> >> >> >> <daniel.oliveira.mantov...@gmail.com> escreveu: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 2013/2/13 Tiago Peczenyj <tiago.pecze...@gmail.com>: >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > 2013/2/13 Daniel de Oliveira Mantovani >>> >> >> >>> > <daniel.oliveira.mantov...@gmail.com> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Se escreve Perl e não Pearl, e exigir curso superior em T.I >>> é >>> >> >> >>> >> burrice. >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > Não é. Quem não ter curso superior não deveria estar ocupando >>> >> >> >>> > lugar >>> >> >> >>> > dos >>> >> >> >>> > verdadeiros profissionais. >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> Não sei se você foi sarcástico ou muito tapado. >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> 2013/2/13 Marcos <marcos.aure...@capitani.com.br>: >>> >> >> >>> >> > Bom dia, grupo. >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > A Capitani IT Solutions é uma consultoria de alocação de >>> >> >> >>> >> > profissionais >>> >> >> >>> >> > especialistas em Tecnologia da Informação, criada em 1996, >>> >> >> >>> >> > busca >>> >> >> >>> >> > por: >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > Analista Desenvolvedor PHP / Perl >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > Projeto para multinacional do segmento financeiro, não >>> banco, >>> >> >> >>> >> > com >>> >> >> >>> >> > sede >>> >> >> >>> >> > em >>> >> >> >>> >> > São Paulo. >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > Projeto com início em 21/02/2013. >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > Principais atividades: Análise, suporte e desenvolvimento >>> em >>> >> >> >>> >> > PHP. >>> >> >> >>> >> > Conhecimentos Exigidos: Programação PHP, fazendo uso de >>> Pearl >>> >> >> >>> >> > e >>> >> >> >>> >> > banco >>> >> >> >>> >> > de >>> >> >> >>> >> > Dados MySQL. >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > Serão atividades de desenvolvimento para área de Marketing >>> >> >> >>> >> > Digital da >>> >> >> >>> >> > empresa. 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(Ao lado do >>> Metrô São >>> >> >> >>> >> > Judas). >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > Caso haja interesse, peço que envie seu CV para >>> >> >> >>> >> > marcos.aure...@capitani.com.br ou repasse para os amigos >>> que >>> >> >> >>> >> > talvez >>> >> >> >>> >> > tenham >>> >> >> >>> >> > interesse. >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > =begin disclaimer >>> >> >> >>> >> > Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >> > SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: SaoPaulo-pm@pm.org >>> >> >> >>> >> > L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>> >> >> >>> >> > =end disclaimer >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -dom >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> IBM - Business Analytics Optimization Consultant >>> >> >> >>> >> Daniel Mantovani +5511 8538-9897 >>> >> >> >>> >> XOXO >>> >> >> >>> >> =begin disclaimer >>> >> >> >>> >> Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >> SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: SaoPaulo-pm@pm.org >>> >> >> >>> >> L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>> >> >> >>> >> =end disclaimer >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > -- >>> >> >> >>> > Tiago B. Peczenyj >>> >> >> >>> > Linux User #405772 >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > http://about.me/peczenyj >>> >> >> >>> > =begin disclaimer >>> >> >> >>> > Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>> >> >> >>> > SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: SaoPaulo-pm@pm.org >>> >> >> >>> > L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>> >> >> >>> > =end disclaimer >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> -- >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> -dom >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> -- >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> IBM - Business Analytics Optimization Consultant >>> >> >> >>> Daniel Mantovani +5511 8538-9897 >>> >> >> >>> XOXO >>> >> >> >>> =begin disclaimer >>> >> >> >>> Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>> >> >> >>> SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: SaoPaulo-pm@pm.org >>> >> >> >>> L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>> >> >> >>> =end disclaimer >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> =begin disclaimer >>> >> >> >> Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>> >> >> >> SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: SaoPaulo-pm@pm.org >>> >> >> >> L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>> >> >> >> =end disclaimer >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > -- >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > -dom >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > -- >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > IBM - Business Analytics Optimization Consultant >>> >> >> > Daniel Mantovani +5511 8538-9897 >>> >> >> > XOXO >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -dom >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >>> >> >> >>> >> >> IBM - Business Analytics Optimization Consultant >>> >> >> Daniel Mantovani +5511 8538-9897 >>> >> >> XOXO >>> >> >> =begin disclaimer >>> >> >> Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>> >> >> SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: SaoPaulo-pm@pm.org >>> >> >> L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>> >> >> =end disclaimer >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Tiago B. Peczenyj >>> >> > Linux User #405772 >>> >> > >>> >> > http://about.me/peczenyj >>> >> > >>> >> > =begin disclaimer >>> >> > Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>> >> > SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: SaoPaulo-pm@pm.org >>> >> > L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>> >> > =end disclaimer >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> -dom >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> IBM - Business Analytics Optimization Consultant >>> >> Daniel Mantovani +5511 8538-9897 >>> >> XOXO >>> >> =begin disclaimer >>> >> Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>> >> SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: SaoPaulo-pm@pm.org >>> >> L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>> >> =end disclaimer >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Tiago B. Peczenyj >>> > Linux User #405772 >>> > >>> > http://about.me/peczenyj >>> > >>> > =begin disclaimer >>> > Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>> > SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: SaoPaulo-pm@pm.org >>> > L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>> > =end disclaimer >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> -dom >>> >>> -- >>> >>> IBM - Business Analytics Optimization Consultant >>> Daniel Mantovani +5511 8538-9897 >>> XOXO >>> =begin disclaimer >>> Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>> SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: SaoPaulo-pm@pm.org >>> L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>> =end disclaimer >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Jean C. 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