Hi,
Notice that nowhere did I say that .NET drivers would be a bad thing, and
with mono progressing (good or bad), it might be a good thing even for
Linux. My only point here is that you can use the ODBC drivers in any
program, either directly or indirectly. It's more important to me that
SAP fix kernel bugs which cause serious problems, than to work on a client
that has native .NET or ADO/OleDB because... I just don't see the need.
I'd like native DBX drivers for Kylix/Delphi while they're at it too, but
bridging ODBC to another standard works for me, even if it is less
efficient - so I think they have met the minimum standard there.
I do agree with you that having good support on windows is important. As
much as I would be happy if I never saw a windows PC again, I am typing on
one now, and the more decent cross-platform software, the better.
Thank you,
Noah Silva
IS&T - Programmer Analyst
(215) 419 - 7916
"Stephen Gutknecht (SAPDB)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
08/08/2003 06:26 PM
To: Noah J SILVA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: SAPDB not competitive due to neglect of Win32 drivers
The problem you describe is one of the computer industry and not just
Microsoft. Some would consider it arrogance to blame Microsoft for things
that are due to an immature industry. If you can do so much better than
them, then you make a product and get 90% of the desktops.
...
A dotNet driver is only going to help SAPDB / MaxDB. If you want to hurt
Microsoft, hit them where it hurts - on an expensive product like SQL
Server
($40,000 for a 2cpu license that supports more than 1.7GB of RAM and
unlimited users required for a web server).
I'm sorry if I'm the first to break the news... but Linux hasn't taken
over
the world. Reports of Windows death is a little premature. Every other
DBMS out there has a driver.
The plate is vacant. Any Java programmers willing to step up to do a
clean
C# reverse engineering of the SAPDB JDBC driver? Is $5000 in funding
really
of no interest? That is the cheapest I can replace SAPDB with a unlimited
user license required for a web site. Sybase,Oracle,Microsoft all want
that
(or more) per processor. If you are scared of the Microsoft side, there
are
open source c# drivers for MySQL / PostgreSQL to use as a sample code
structure.
Stephen
-----Original Message-----
From: Noah J SILVA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 12:59 PM
To: Stephen Gutknecht (SAPDB)
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SAPDB not competitive due to neglect of Win32 drivers
Stephen,
I realize you would like ADO, OleDB, or .NET drivers, but look at
the history of Microsoft. They come up with a "Standard", and then change
...
Obviously I could go on.
ODBC works, and there are bridges from ODBC to every other
database technology (like DBX, for example). If the bridge doesn't work,
...
I should note that SAPDB also isn't directly supported by Gnome-DB
(but since ODBC is...).
Thank you,
Noah Silva
IS&T - Programmer Analyst
(215) 419 - 7916
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