Thanks!

On Aug 12, 1:19 am, lzantal <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Quick update. I am working on coding up a "very" rough prototype for
> this.
> Sorry for the delay I got a deadline to meet this week.
>
> lzantal
>
> On Aug 9, 5:44 pm, Albert Pi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Izantal. I appreciate it.
>
> > On Aug 9, 7:17 pm, lzantal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi Albert,
>
> > > I think you are going down the right path. Let me look at more closely
> > > your code and get back to you.
> > > I don't want to just throw ideas around:)
> > > On number 2, that could be handled many ways, set active to false,
> > > don't put the product under any category, or put it under a hidden
> > > category etc..
>
> > > lzantal
>
> > > On Aug 8, 6:59 pm, Albert Pi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I'm having hard times trying to interact with satchmo products in my
> > > > dynamic form to allow users to customize their bikes. This is a
> > > > stripped down version of my app:http://dpaste.com/hold/226356/
>
> > > > I'm following your idea of creating a new CustomBike Product with its
> > > > price being calculated as the sum of each selected part price.
>
> > > > Problems:
> > > > 1. I need a nested ChoiceField for options in each selectable Bike
> > > > part, with price change, etc, in case those parts were CustomProduct
> > > > or ConfigurableProduct. I find it really hard, digging in satchmo code
> > > > to learn how it works, to figure out how can I do this easily. There
> > > > isn't a clear API, to get this kind of things. Everything is spread
> > > > all over different parts. For example, in product.forms there are only
> > > > VariationManagerForm, ProductImportForm, ProductExportForm, and
> > > > InventoryForm. What about CustomProductForm, ConfigurableProductForm?
> > > > There are some views in __init__.py inside Product.views. For example,
> > > > get_product, get_configurable_product_options, get_price with
> > > > references to ConfigurableProduct but none to CustomProduct. Why? Then
> > > > there are the model methods. I find it really hard to get what I want,
> > > > if it wasn't enough to use dynamic forms in Django itself (nested
> > > > choicefields have poor 
> > > > documentation:http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/4412).
>
> > > > 2. If I succeed building that form, a new CustomBike is created, but.
> > > > I only want this, for example to enable customers to upload pictures
> > > > of their bikes. I don't want this product to appear in the catalog,
> > > > nor to exist if the customer doesn't finally complete the checkout. It
> > > > looks pretty complicated.
>
> > > > I'd like to build this ASAP and I think my options, right now are
> > > > these: 1. Use magento, which has this out of the box  2. hire someone
> > > > more familiar with satchmo 3. Keep trying
>
> > > > Thanks for helping, Izantal, really.
>
> > > > On Aug 5, 6:56 pm, lzantal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > That sounds good to me.
> > > > > Yes since CustomBike extends Product the checkout process would work
> > > > > fine.
> > > > > Please keep us posted:)
>
> > > > > lzantal
>
> > > > > On Aug 3, 9:24 pm, Albert Pi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Thanks again Izantal, I think I'm taking your route. CustomBike 
> > > > > > model
> > > > > > class, CustomBikePart model class (part_name (Saddle...), fk to
> > > > > > CustomBike, m2m to Product). Then just presenting a form depending 
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > CustomBikeParts (for each custombikepart, one fieldset), adding each
> > > > > > selected part to the cart and creating a CustomBike (or adding the
> > > > > > CustomBike to the cart right away, with a list of its parts, I would
> > > > > > prefer this option).
>
> > > > > > >The complication I can see is with the checkout process. Since
>
> > > > > > orderitem has a foreignkey to product.
>
> > > > > > if CustomBike is extending Product, fine, right?
>
> > > > > > On Jul 29, 6:15 pm, lzantal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 28, 7:56 pm, Albert Pi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Thank you, Izantal. Very responsive.
>
> > > > > > > > I've been wondering what's the best way to do this properly. 
> > > > > > > > Just
> > > > > > > > adding an m2m field to the Product itself, extending it, is not
> > > > > > > > enough. It becomes hardly usable.
>
> > > > > > > You are right it's not the perfect solution. But it would be a 
> > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > start since you would have a custom product(bike)
> > > > > > > and you could attach other products to it(saddle etc).
>
> > > > > > > > My conclusion being that I need to extend Option, or to make a 
> > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > OptionProduct class tailored to this scenario. Option with fk to
> > > > > > > > Product
>
> > > > > > > I have not used the Option feature much, so I don't have too much
> > > > > > > experience with it.
> > > > > > > Yes it's definetly have to be custom to this scenario.
>
> > > > > > > > For example:
> > > > > > > > (CustomProduct) ...
> > > > > > > > OptionProduct (Option) ... product = models.ForeignKey(Product) 
> > > > > > > > ...
>
> > > > > > > > CustomBike1
> > > > > > > >     -OptionGroup1: saddle
> > > > > > > >         OptionProduct A: Saddle Product X
> > > > > > > >         OptionProduct B: Saddle Product Y
> > > > > > > >         OptionProduct C: Saddle Product Z
> > > > > > > >      -OptionGroup2: wheels
> > > > > > > >         ...
>
> > > > > > > In that case CustomOptionGroup should have a manytomany field to
> > > > > > > product and
> > > > > > > make it an inline for CustomProduct.
>
> > > > > > > > How hard would it be to do this with satchmo? Which are the
> > > > > > > > implications of this, regarding other parts of satchmo code? I 
> > > > > > > > guess
> > > > > > > > it requires a lot of work, but I'm new to satchmo, so I don't 
> > > > > > > > know.
>
> > > > > > > Again since this will be very unique it would not be that 
> > > > > > > difficult.
> > > > > > > You need
> > > > > > > to write the views and templates for it so it would not affect the
> > > > > > > rest of the satchmo store.
> > > > > > > The complication I can see is with the checkout process. Since
> > > > > > > orderitem has a foreignkey to product.
> > > > > > > One way I can think of it(as usual the quick hack way) is that 
> > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > your customer finished building the bike your view
> > > > > > > creates a new product
> > > > > > > with the total calculated from the parts he/she picked and all the
> > > > > > > products attached to this
> > > > > > > product through the manytomany field. Then it would just become an
> > > > > > > other product for the
> > > > > > > checkout system and it would go through without any issue.
> > > > > > > Again I am just brainstorming here so take it with a grain of 
> > > > > > > salt.
>
> > > > > > > > PS: And by the way, why aren't Option and OptionGroup, let's 
> > > > > > > > say in
> > > > > > > > apps/product/modules/product_options/models.py  with 
> > > > > > > > product_options/
> > > > > > > > custom/, product_options/configurable/ ... It feels it doesn't 
> > > > > > > > belong,
> > > > > > > > right now, with "regular" products. Just saying.
>
> > > > > > > No idea on this, may be one of the core devs could comment on 
> > > > > > > this.
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks again for your interest and congrats for your hard work, 
> > > > > > > > you,
> > > > > > > > satchmo devs.
>
> > > > > > > Congrats goes to the core devs and everyone who contributes:)
> > > > > > > Satchmo is a breath of fresh air for me compare to the other
> > > > > > > frameworks
> > > > > > > I have worked with.:):)
> > > > > > > I hope you'll find satchmo the right fit for your needs and even 
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > there is something
> > > > > > > that's missing satchmo is just django... :-D
>
> > > > > > > lzantal
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 28, 3:47 am, lzantal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > > > > > That sounds very interesting. This would be my first 
> > > > > > > > > prototype for
> > > > > > > > > this::
> > > > > > > > > Create a custom product by inheriting product, add a 
> > > > > > > > > manytomany field
> > > > > > > > > to product.
> > > > > > > > > I would also add an automatic discount for this product, so 
> > > > > > > > > the price
> > > > > > > > > drops since they buy a lot
> > > > > > > > > of parts. Create a custom view to handle the product 
> > > > > > > > > customization.
> > > > > > > > > This is where you would display
> > > > > > > > > the different parts and they could pick which one to add to 
> > > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > product.
> > > > > > > > > Have a link like "Build your own Bike".
> > > > > > > > > It sounds like fun, and I don''t think it would that 
> > > > > > > > > complicated to
> > > > > > > > > implement it.
> > > > > > > > > And you will be Much happier with satchmo:)
> > > > > > > > > I have done my fair share of coding/theming with osCommerce.
>
> > > > > > > > > Hope it helps
>
> > > > > > > > > lzantal
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 1:59 pm, Albert Pi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I meant something like 
> > > > > > > > > > this:http://addons.oscommerce.com/info/6328
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 9:54 pm, Albert Pi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to sell a Product made of parts which are also 
> > > > > > > > > > > sold
> > > > > > > > > > > separately. So I need an Option class with something more 
> > > > > > > > > > > than a key
> > > > > > > > > > > value pairs (2 CharFields), say maybe an OptionProduct 
> > > > > > > > > > > class with fk
> > > > > > > > > > > to Product and to OptionGroup (besides price_change, and 
> > > > > > > > > > > so on).
>
> > > > > > > > > > > This is the scenario, to make this clear: I want to sell 
> > > > > > > > > > > custom bikes
> > > > > > > > > > > made of parts which are also sold separately. Customers 
> > > > > > > > > > > have to choose
> > > > > > > > > > > what saddle, frame, wheels, etc, do they want, but they 
> > > > > > > > > > > also can buy
> > > > > > > > > > > them separately. If they decide to buy the custom bike, 1 
> > > > > > > > > > > single
> > > > > > > > > > > Product goes to the cart (Custom bike), with all the 
> > > > > > > > > > > selected options
> > > > > > > > > > > and price changes due to each one of them.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > OptionGroup (Options) seems a bit limited to simpler 
> > > > > > > > > > > cases (size/
> > > > > > > > > > > color). I think this is a pretty common scenario for 
> > > > > > > > > > > example, for
> > > > > > > > > > > selling, let's say, a
>
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>
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