Yep, its a old overhead projector.

Just got it, it has a roughly 6 foot throw distance, with a image size
of around 3x3 feet. So we are still going to need a mirror, roughly
20x20 should do. That will allow for a 3 foot or so tall table.

A small LCD panel should work good. Only part of it will be visible
anyways.

On Apr 13, 11:25 am, Phil Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> oh duh, right.
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ryan Reggio <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing. when he said projector i had an
> > image of an old over head projector, the same kind they used in school
> > classrooms and such. however maybe he was talking about something
> > else. if its one of those old overheads then all we need to do is set
> > the lcd (after taking it apart of course) on top of it. and viola
> > instant lcd projector thingy.... it should project a 15 inch screen.
> > however if the lens works on anything other than a 1 to 1 ratio then
> > it could be ether bigger or smaller... if its smaller then yeah wee
> > need another mirror... if its bigger though were all set.if i remember
> > correctly the over head projectors work by shining a light through a
> > lens, you set the transparencies on the first lens. then you had the
> > part that stuck up like an antennae. that part i think was made up of
> > two convex lenses and one normal mirror angled at 45 degrees. if thats
> > the case all we'll need to compensate for is the image being
> > reversed... which could prove problematic i suppose we could just tip
> > the overhead on its side after taping the lcd to the projector... that
> > way its projecting vertical rather than horizontal... lol but i guess
> > we'll see next saturday...
>
> > On Apr 13, 9:37 am, Phil Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> (bulb + 15'' lcd) == projector that needs a bigger mirror, or a way to
> >> work without it.  The ones we have are 1'x1'
>
> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Ryan Reggio <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > i have another one we can use its a desktop monitor. its not all that
> >> > big but i think it will work for our purposes. i think its about 15"
> >> > or so. i don't know how big the surface of the projector is. however
> >> > that will limit how big the lcd screen can be as if its too big there
> >> > will be space that the projector doesn't hit with light. i would think
> >> > 15" or smaller would be a good place to start.having a screen that is
> >> > too small is ok but if its too big.... then we start to have problems.
>
> >> > -Ryan
>
> >> > On Apr 13, 8:14 am, Crusoe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> Also, the other half of work involves a DLP or homebrew LCD projector.
> >> >> I have a overhead projector being dropped off today. Found it for $30
> >> >> on craigslist.
>
> >> >> Next, we'll need another LCD monitor to take apart.
>
> >> >> -Daniel
>
> >> >> > backscatter was available for the camera to see.
>
> >> >> > So the next plan of attack is to either use a ir rimlight around the
> >> >> > display surface, and finger touches will break the internal
> >> >> > reflection, scattering light to the camera. Or mount some IR LEDs
> >> >> > underneath, and use these so that finger touches cause IR backscatter.
>
> >> >> > I found some VERY powerful IR Leds online, 0.5-3W. I will probably
> >> >> > pick up a few.
>
> >> >> > -Daniel
>
> >> >> > On Apr 9, 9:04 am, Phil Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > Nice.  I'll go see if I can't scrounge up a small mirror.
>
> >> >> > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Crusoe <[email protected]> 
> >> >> > > wrote:
>
> >> >> > > > Just got the firewire camera in. 640x480, very nice picture.
>
> >> >> > > > I managed to scrape off most of the IR filter, and I found some
> >> >> > > > exposed color film negative to use as a visible light filter. I
> >> >> > > > suspect I will need to muck with it more at Saturday house.
>
> >> >> > > > -Daniel
>
> >> >> > > > On Apr 6, 8:37 am, Crusoe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > > >> So we have 2 solutions for image capture. Security cameras, and 
> >> >> > > >> the
> >> >> > > >> firewire webcam
>
> >> >> > > >> RRegio: I think the Celeron box you have should be able to run 
> >> >> > > >> the
> >> >> > > >> image processing/capture adequately.
>
> >> >> > > >> So all we need is the mirror.
>
> >> >> > > >> On Apr 5, 11:17 pm, Crusoe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > >> > Meh, my laptop can run the software just fine. I have a 
> >> >> > > >> > firewire
> >> >> > > >> > webcam coming in. But yeah, we can try the security cameras as 
> >> >> > > >> > well if
> >> >> > > >> > Ryan or someone can find a capture card.
>
> >> >> > > >> > Also, Ryan brought along these real cool microwave-based motion
> >> >> > > >> > detectors. All they need is power, and they output a signal on 
> >> >> > > >> > 2 wires
> >> >> > > >> > when they detect motion. Someone with a voltmeter and basic 
> >> >> > > >> > electronic
> >> >> > > >> > knowledge can probably figure it out.
>
> >> >> > > >> > The Dec box was powerful in it's day, but my notebook may be 
> >> >> > > >> > faster
> >> >> > > >> > now.
>
> >> >> > > >> > -Daniel
>
> >> >> > > >> > On Apr 5, 4:19 pm, Phil Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > >> > > I'm seeing a 65bit dec alpha box going by on freecycle: 
> >> >> > > >> > > "Working,
> >> >> > > >> > > loaded with 64-Bit Windows NT(!). Floppy, CD, and Zip 
> >> >> > > >> > > drives. No
> >> >> > > >> > > monitor, accessories or power cord."  No idea how it stacks 
> >> >> > > >> > > up, but
> >> >> > > >> > > hey, free box.
>
> >> >> > > >> > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:28 PM, [email protected] 
> >> >> > > >> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > >> > > > so those of you who were at the meeting yesterday know we 
> >> >> > > >> > > > got a
> >> >> > > >> > > > prototype of the reactable semi-working. so in order to 
> >> >> > > >> > > > actually get
> >> >> > > >> > > > it working in a respectable fashion we need a few things. 
> >> >> > > >> > > > an
> >> >> > > >> > > > appropriately sized mirror (about 15" x 15"), and a 
> >> >> > > >> > > > computer capable
> >> >> > > >> > > > of running the software for image capture and analysis. i 
> >> >> > > >> > > > have a
> >> >> > > >> > > > computer we can use for this purpose, however if anyone 
> >> >> > > >> > > > has something
> >> >> > > >> > > > better (its needs to have at least one available PCI slot 
> >> >> > > >> > > > for the NTSC
> >> >> > > >> > > > capture card)  the computer i have is running win xp using 
> >> >> > > >> > > > a intel
> >> >> > > >> > > > celeron d 3.06 ghz with 1-2 gigs of ram its a blank 
> >> >> > > >> > > > machine so it'll
> >> >> > > >> > > > run pretty quick however we may need a bit more juice than 
> >> >> > > >> > > > that. so if
> >> >> > > >> > > > anyone can bring something better i can just slot the 
> >> >> > > >> > > > capture card
> >> >> > > >> > > > into it. any help will be appreciated.
>
> >> >> > > >> > > > -Ryan

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