Gregory Heller has accurately conveyed the spirit of the thing,
  and I am thankful to him for this.

  I would draw particular attention to:
  "By no means am i following lion in an unquestioning and servile
manner, but i believe in his vision for saturday house, and I am
willing to do what i can to support it."

  This is a key point.


On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Gregory Heller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I am reminded of a proverb: he who tries to bring everyone to the top of
> the mountain will never reach it himself.  He who chooses his path and
> takes it will surely succeed.
>
> I believe that Lion is clearly outlining what his intention is, and
> anyone who want to join in, is welcome, but if you don't, or if you want
> to substantially modify his intention, well, your on your own finding
> your way to the top of the mountain.
>
> Lion has chosen his path, and he is going to take it.  There are people
> willing to follow and support that journey, and offer guidance and
> advise on the way up, but if you don't want to get to the same mountain
> peak, by the similar means, well, this trek is not for you.
>
> At least that is what i am hearing.  By no means am i following lion in
> an unquestioning and servile manner, but i believe in his vision for
> saturday house, and I am willing to do what i can to support it.
>
> I am not going to obey lion as if he is a cult leader, but when it comes
> to saturday house, this is a vision he has outlined and I am willing to
> support it.
>
> -gregory
>
>
> Lion Kimbro wrote:
>>   I have a job, and I really need to work at it.
>>
>>   I shouldn't have written this email.  However, I have, and here it is.
>>
>>   ...
>>
>>   I wish I could describe my perspective right now; What Saturday House
>>   has been, visions of Spiriata, countless memories from Damanhur,
>>   flashes of Bral Talej cards, Mars Hill, Clearwater, Twin Oaks; What's
>>   in my head, and what's here in the mailing list are dancing around one
>>   another.
>>
>>   This is clearly what the Damanhurian's call a Synchronic moment.
>>   Clearly, too, Saturday House needs direction.
>>
>>   Further, I need to get home, so that I can go to bed.
>>
>>   I have doubts about the vision that I have spoken so far, and clearly,
>>   the list is in need of healing.
>>
>>   Saturday House will be neither what it has been, nor will it be what I
>>   have imagined it to be, up to this moment.  It will be something
>>   better.
>>
>>
>>   1.  I am captain of this ship.  Rule 6 simply means that people
>>       recognize that I am captain of the ship.  If I say "No," it means,
>>       "We're not doing that."  If I say "I need you to do this," it
>>       means that you should do it.  Punctuality is very important,
>>       otherwise these things won't work.
>>
>>       I can see a path where -- if we exert a lot of effort, we can
>>       establish a very different kind of governance in our future,
>>       reflective of the kind of governance we would like to see in the
>>       world at large.  But we will need to get there.
>>
>>   1 1/2.  A bit of clarification, in case anyone is confused: We are
>>           explicitly NOT plotting overthrows of the government, or
>>           anything like that.  Participation in Saturday House has
>>           ALWAYS been, and always WILL be purely voluntary.
>>
>>   2.  A question:
>>
>>       Is the reaction against the law a reaction against the CONTENTS of
>>       the law: "we don't speak against high ideals" -- or rather, is it
>>       a reaction against the idea of rules at Saturday House all?
>>
>>       If Saturday House is to be bent according to a vision, then I need
>>       to be able to make some hammer marks on it.  High ideals is part
>>       of this.
>>
>>   3.  This "new vision" is not actually very new; It is only *slightly*
>>       different than Saturday House's original vision.  The strategy,
>>       however, is radically different, and based in things learned in
>>       the last 2 years.  Bring your projects, your ambitions, your
>>       interests; But not only these- also, your hearts, and your sincere
>>       presence.
>>
>>   4.  Mike Begley is right about projects and work items.
>>       We'll start with:
>>       1.  Finding Saturday House locations to use on Saturday.
>>       2.  Communication of Vision.
>>       3.  Experiment with different ways of structuring our Saturdays,
>>           based on feedback and ideas from everybody.  Remember: Many
>>           failures will come, but we will find what works.
>>       4.  Remaking the website to reflect our change.  Artwork, text,
>>           the page structures, and web serving.
>>       5.  Establishing dues.  They will be light, to begin with.  Dues
>>           are proportional to the degree of participation someone wishes
>>           to engage.  And if you have no money, of course, you shouldn't
>>           pay anything.  Visitors and people investigating are requested
>>           NOT to pay dues.  Regulars who are not involved in running
>>           Saturday House will have a *light* dues request.
>>       6.  Collecting posters, books, even comics that are representative
>>           of what we hold in our hearts.  Please, bring what is dear to
>>           you. (*)
>>
>>   5.  THERE ARE NO PROFESSIONALS HERE.  I am a captain, but don't
>>       mistake my "captaining" for professionalism.  I don't know that
>>       there even *is* a profession for what I am doing.  We need to hear
>>       many ideas, and try many things.  We will develop understandings,
>>       over time, from our experiments -- this is good.  We will fail
>>       many times, I am sure.  But it will be exciting; An adventure.
>>
>>   Do you feel that knot in your stomach?
>>
>>   It means that we're going to do something very, very different.
>>
>>
>>   (*) Some people who's quotes are important to me, off the top of my
>>       head, in no particular order, that we can seed ourselves with:
>>
>>     Walt Disney  http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Walt_Disney
>>     GK Chesterton
>>     George MacDonald
>>     CS Lewis
>>     Madeline LeEngle
>>     Ursula K Leguin
>>     Paul Twitchell
>>     Kirphal Singh
>>     Ghandi
>>     Michael Turner
>>     Osamu Tezuka
>>     Frank Herbert
>>     Leiji Matsumoto
>>     Masamune Shirow
>>     Kousuke Fujishima
>>     Oberto Airaudi
>>     Teilhard De Chardin
>>
>> >
>>
>>
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