Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tapota :

> On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 07:50:21AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
>> > 1) I use the e-mail from the account instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (since
>> > Savannah doesn't forwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]),<
>> 
>> Hum. It is best not to disregard real user address but
>> indeed it means forwarding must be activated.
>> But wouldnt it be easy for you to have the aliases on the
>> mailing-server server: that would make the stuff working but it would
>> not implies that it would be working from the outside. That may be an
>> acceptable in-between solution.
>
> What are the advantages of not using the user's real mail?
>
> For me, in particular, it will certainly not be easier, but don't care
> for me :)

Most users does not like the fact their email address get written in
clear text on webpages such as mailman webpage.
At least when the aliase is used:
   - they know where the address was fetched (and so, what should be
   the topic)
   - it is pre-filtered by spamassassin 


>> > 2) I add @lists.[non]gnu.org at the end of the list name when calling
>> > 'newlist' (uses the associated virtual domain configuration). Beware,
>> > I actually use again 'mailing_list_host', which is currently
>> > deprecated, but fits my needs.
>> 
>> So this cannot and should not be included, as it use deprecated stuff.
>> 
>> The way mailing-list address must be defined is using Mailing-list
>> address (ex: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). 
>
> That's not the way Mailman allows you to create lists on virtual
> domain. It wants your virtual HTTP host and get the associated mail
> domain - not the opposite. Check newlist --help.

That's not my point. My point is that the @gna.org information should
not be retrieved from deprecated fields.


>> > and 3) added a bunch of TODOs comments.
>> >
>> > Also, the script won't work anyway without a wrapper around 'newlist';
>> > actually there is no official, standard way to handle multiple
>> > domains. lists.gnu.org uses a way, some installations (including what
>> > is recommended in the Mailman Debian package documentation) use
>> > something a bit different (I think Savannah's way is better since it
>> > allows easy aliasing among domains).
>> >
>> > The wrapper's role is to do a few things afest newlist is called (tell
>> > Exim what domain the list uses,
>> 
>> That could be done by sv_mailman just the way it preconfigure the list
>> (private etc...), no?
>
> Why not, but as I said this assumes a particular way to expose the
> virtual domains, which the user may not agree with. I think it's best
> not to do it in sv_mailman.
>
> When Mailman will offer a standard way to publish virtual domains to
> the MTA, then we'll be able to work on it.
>

Ok.

>
> Configuring the list virtual domain is still useful.
>
>> > fix a bug in newly created list with our version of Mailman, export
>> > the updated list of mailing lists to another mail system).
>> 
>> That part could not be part of Savane, it is specific to Savannah's
>> arrangements. 
>
> I didn't intend to :) [incidentally I don't think the bugfix is not
> Savannah-specific]


Regards,

-- 
Mathieu Roy

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