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Posted by:              Mathieu Roy <yeupou>
Posted on:              mar 09.11.2004 à 18:23 (Europe/Paris)

            What     | Removed                   | Added
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            Category | Packaging                 | Web Frontend
              Status | None                      | Cancelled
         Assigned to | None                      | yeupou
         Open/Closed | Open                      | Closed


------------------ Additional Follow-up Comments ----------------------------
We have already several name changing issue for the next coming release, I'd 
rather avoid this one. As Dig statements about who<->what make sense, as this 
issue havent not been brought to my attention once more, I close the task. We 
will reopen it later if needed.



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OVERVIEW of task #783:
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URL:
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Project:                Savane
Submitted by:           Mathieu Roy
Submitted on:           jeu 23.09.2004 à 16:27

Should Start On:                mer 22.09.2004 à 00:00
Should be Finished on:          dim 31.10.2004 à 00:00
Category:               Web Frontend
Priority:               3 - Normal
Status:         Cancelled
Privacy:                Public
Assigned to:            yeupou
Percent Complete:               0%
Open/Closed:            Closed
Effort:         0.00
Planned Release:                


Summary:                Choice between "Groups" and "Projects"
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Original Submission:
In Savane, currently many pages refers alternatively to "Groups" or "Project", 
to name exactly the name thing.

We should decide the one we want to keep.

- Project: More strict sense than Group, that may be unappropriate in some 
cases (some Group we have at Gna cannot really be called project in a sensible 
way, like most organizational groups). 
Alberto Aimar, leader of LCG/SPI Savannah, is in favor of this option.

- Group: maybe a bit vague (which is both an advantage and an inconvenience). 
It has one clear advantages, many pages, scripts are named with the string 
"group", most of functions in Savane use the string group.
I'm personally in favor of this option, but I wont oppose to the other option.

I'd to hear your opinions, if any.


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Commentaires :


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Date: mar 09.11.2004 à 18:23        By: Mathieu Roy <yeupou>
We have already several name changing issue for the next coming release, I'd 
rather avoid this one. As Dig statements about who<->what make sense, as this 
issue havent not been brought to my attention once more, I close the task. We 
will reopen it later if needed.

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Date: jeu 23.09.2004 à 18:54        By: Mathieu Roy <yeupou>
"But, maybe, there is nothing wrong with both of them?"

It's confusing since they are always used in same context but in different 
places.


"P.S. Mathieu, I presume you did not receive my last"

Maybe I overlooked it or spamassassin tagged it as spam, but I do not remember 
it. I always tag messages that I cannot handle directly to find them easily and 
I do not find yours.


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Date: jeu 23.09.2004 à 18:47        By: DIG <dig>
I would say ``project''.



It is a matter of perception, it depends on how you see it.  If you are focused 
on what you are doing, on your target, then it is a project.  If you focused on 
who is doing this project, then you are talking about a group.



WHO         <--  -->          WHAT

DOERS       <--  -->        TARGET



But, maybe, there is nothing wrong with both of them?  Maybe sometimes it is 
appropriate to talk about group, and sometimes -- about a project?



If we can have only one, then I think the project is a primary idea.  The 
groups form themselves around the projects.  (However, sometimes already 
existing group decides to do some project).  And one more thing: when only one 
developer works on his project, he can hardly be called ``a group'', but his 
project is still called ``a project''.



Savane is primarily a project-management software; something like meetup.com or 
yahoo's groups could be mentioned as an example of group-management hosts.



P.S. Mathieu, I presume you did not receive my last e-mail (with some questions 
about patches to GNA-related software)?  I sent it 3-4 days ago.



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Date: jeu 23.09.2004 à 18:44        By: DIG <dig>
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