Hi Matt,

Congratulations to your work!
Could you please additionally benchmark with ogg/vorbis?
I would be interested in the results.

BR, Peter

Am 03.10.2013 13:28, schrieb Matt Camp:
> Awesome, that definitely seems to have done the trick... I now have 
> stable-sounding live streaming from a Raspberry Pi!
>
> One still has to be careful with other processes on the device however as 
> it's living on the edge... as evidenced below when I fired up apt-get in 
> another terminal and pushed the CPU up near 100% use briefly.... I am still 
> seeing the occasional dropout even when I leave it alone, so I suspect there 
> are probably still a few other processes around that could be pruned back to 
> streamline things more.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> -----
>
> 2013/10/03 11:18:47 [threads:3] Created thread "wallclock_icecast" (1 total).
> 2013/10/03 11:18:47 [threads:3] Created thread "input.alsa_4842" (2 total).
> 2013/10/03 11:18:47 [threads:3] Created thread "wallclock_alsa" (3 total).
> 2013/10/03 11:18:47 [clock.wallclock_icecast:3] Streaming loop starts, 
> synchronized with wallclock.
> 2013/10/03 11:18:47 [input.alsa_4842:3] Using ALSA 1.0.25.
> 2013/10/03 11:18:47 [clock.wallclock_alsa:3] Streaming loop starts, 
> synchronized by active sources.
> 2013/10/03 11:18:47 [mksafe:3] Switch to safe_blank.
> 2013/10/03 11:18:48 [mksafe:3] Switch to warp_prod_4848 with transition.
> 2013/10/03 11:18:51 [input.alsa_4842:2] Overrun!
> 2013/10/03 11:18:51 [input.alsa_4842:2] Trying to recover..
> 2013/10/03 11:20:14 [input.alsa_4842:2] Overrun!
> 2013/10/03 11:20:14 [input.alsa_4842:2] Trying to recover..
> 2013/10/03 11:20:21 [input.alsa_4842:2] Overrun!
> 2013/10/03 11:20:21 [input.alsa_4842:2] Trying to recover..
> 2013/10/03 11:20:21 [warp_prod_4848:3] Buffer emptied, start buffering...
> 2013/10/03 11:20:21 [mksafe:3] Switch to safe_blank with transition.
> 2013/10/03 11:20:22 [mksafe:3] Switch to warp_prod_4848 with transition.
> 2013/10/03 11:20:28 [input.alsa_4842:2] Overrun!
> 2013/10/03 11:20:28 [input.alsa_4842:2] Trying to recover..
> 2013/10/03 11:20:33 [input.alsa_4842:2] Overrun!
> 2013/10/03 11:20:33 [input.alsa_4842:2] Trying to recover..
> 2013/10/03 11:20:53 [input.alsa_4842:2] Overrun!
> 2013/10/03 11:20:53 [input.alsa_4842:2] Trying to recover..
> 2013/10/03 11:20:53 [warp_prod_4848:3] Buffer emptied, start buffering...
> 2013/10/03 11:20:53 [mksafe:3] Switch to safe_blank with transition.
> 2013/10/03 11:20:54 [mksafe:3] Switch to warp_prod_4848 with transition.
> 2013/10/03 11:20:59 [input.alsa_4842:2] Overrun!
> 2013/10/03 11:20:59 [input.alsa_4842:2] Trying to recover..
> 2013/10/03 11:21:04 [input.alsa_4842:2] Overrun!
> 2013/10/03 11:21:04 [input.alsa_4842:2] Trying to recover..
>
>
> On 3 October 2013 03:05, Romain Beauxis <rom...@liquidsoap.fm 
> <mailto:rom...@liquidsoap.fm>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Matt,
>
>     2013/10/2 Matt Camp <m...@noise.net.nz <mailto:m...@noise.net.nz>>
>     >
>     > So after quite a few headaches with various libraries and plenty of 
> time spent recompiling, I've done a few tests using the Raspberry Pi 
> (raspbian armhf) as a potential live stream source.
>
>     Cool, sorry it had to be so painful..
>
>
>     > I'm only interested in AAC+ 64kbit stereo, so my tests are focussed 
> there.
>     >
>     > I'm using a Behringer UCA202 class-compliant USB audio interface as the 
> audio source, with input.alsa() and streaming to an icecast2 server.
>     >
>     > I've tested with both the %aacplus and the %fdkaac encoders.
>     >
>     > %aacplus results in approximately 54-57% CPU usage, with minor audio 
> glitches occuring every 10 seconds so.. these glitches are definitely more 
> frequent (and more audible) when the CPU usage is higher. (see below).
>     >
>     > %fdk-aac using mpeg4_he_aac results in approx 51-55% CPU usage, so is a 
> slight improvement.
>     >
>     > %fdk-aac using mpeg4_he_aac_v2 results in a fairly solid 42% CPU 
> usage... a definite improvement there, although the audio glitches are still 
> there occasionally... enough that I wouldn't want to use this for anything 
> production just yet.
>     >
>     > Interestingly the CPU usage when streaming an mp3 file using this 
> encoder is 55-60%. Even when doing other tasks to push the CPU higher, the 
> audio is still a lot cleaner and more glitch-free than any of the live stream 
> tests. (although they do appear when CPU goes over around 75-80%)
>     >
>     > My suspicion is that these audio glitches are related to the ALSA 
> driver not quite talking with my USB audio interface correctly, although I'm 
> not seeing any 'catch up' errors in the liquidsoap logs...
>     >
>     > I've used the guide at http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/raspberrypi to 
> tweak the rpi as much as possible for audio, but there are still issues.
>     >
>     > Trying to use Jack on the rpi has been a fairly dismal failure. Jackd1 
> (patched for the rpi) runs, but even using jack_rec to record a short audio 
> sample results in around one second of clean audio, then overlaid with static 
> / white noise. Trying to run without the -s flag on jackd results in many 
> alsa xrun error warnings, so I think the rpi is just failing to keep up with 
> the audio.
>     >
>     > Liquidsoap also segfaults as soon I try to use input.jack, so something 
> is quite broken there.
>     >
>     > Attempting to use jackd2 ended with failure to allocate memory and Bus 
> Error's when trying to launch jack.
>     >
>     > I've not tried portaudio or pulseaudio yet, but I'm not really sure if 
> either would be any better than ALSA.
>     >
>     > I'm planning to try to find a different USB audio interface to try out 
> so testing will continue.
>
>     You are most likely right on your intuition of the problem. If you use 
> input.alsa, the clock of the whole script will be assigned to that device's 
> clock. Should the clock conflict with the CPU's clock or network lags, etc.. 
> you may very likely experience this kind of issue.
>
>     There is a potential solution in liquidsoap, which is to use different 
> clocks for the audio input and the icecast output. The documentation is here: 
> http://savonet.sourceforge.net/doc-svn/clocks.html
>     In particular, you may be interested by the "External clocks: decoupling 
> latencies" section.
>
>     Hope this helps,
>     Romain
>
>
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