You might also consider one of the IPS products (e.g., Okena/Cisco,
Entercept/NAI, or PlatformLogic), all of which will allow you to constrain
what happens.... and may be somewhat more scalable than VMware if you need
to run a bunch of instances of the virtual environment.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Scott Nemec
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SC-L] virtual server - security
> 
> 
> Have you looked at VMware?  ( http://www.vmware.com )
> 
> It let's you provide an environment at the hardware-like 
> level inside a
> real box.  This way, if the the script kiddie get's control of your
> virtual environment, you can just reset back to a pre-saved state.
> Meanwhile, the real box is protected from the virtual (at least should
> be).
> 
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Serban Gh. Ghita wrote:
> 
> > Hello
> >
> > I am banging my head on the table every day, because i 
> cannot find an
> > elegant and safe solution to secure a virtual shared 
> environment (server).
> > Take the following facts:
> > -you have a virtual server (unix) and you have to take care 
> of a lot of
> > clients.
> > -no one has acces to shell, cronjobs or stuff like that, 
> only 21 and 80
> > -you dont want anyone to get out of his 'box' (eg /home/sasha/)
> > -you want to allow php, perl or other web languages to run 
> safely and in the
> > same time will _almost_ all features.
> > -in php (because this is the one of the most user language 
> for web - for
> > mostly endusers), i have options like safe_mode, but if i 
> activate that,
> > many functions and features will not work. i know (because 
> i tested) that
> > the best solution is open_basedir, but i cannot create an 
> restriction like
> > that for each user, or at least i dont know how to do that.
> >
> > My problem is that i tested some script-kiddies local 
> exploits (php,perl)
> > and the system is vulnerable, the user can get out of his 
> box and see system
> > files (etc/passwd, other dirs).
> >
> > What are the options here. Any paper or book written about this?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Serban Gh. Ghita
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 


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