On Mar 21, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Arian J. Evans wrote:
> Spot on thread, Ed: > > On 3/20/07, Ed Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not all of these are consumer uprisings - some are, some aren't - > but I think they're all examples of the kinds of economic > adjustments that occur in "mature" markets. > "Unsafe at any speed" (the triumph of consumer safety over > industrial laziness) > Underwriter Laboratories (the triumph of the fire insurance > industry over shoddy electrical manufacturers) > VHS (vs BetaMax - the triumph of content over technology) Sorry, but I couldn't help but be reminded of an old L0pht topic that we brought up in January of 1999. Having just re-read it I found it still relatively poignant: Cyberspace Underwriters Laboratories[1]. It seems to me that a lot of what was of concern then is still of concern now and without great headway being made over these last 8 years. Some note-able items (warning, these are subjective and broad- stroked) have been the commercial world eschewing TCSEC / Common Criteria[2], FIPS 140 being useful for some relatively niche areas and focusing on only portions of a device/component/code, and Trusted Computing really veering away from trusted computing platforms and codebases for classical security compartmentalization and instead focusing on DRM[3]. Just thinking out loud. cheers, .mudge [1] http://packetstormsecurity.org/docs/infosec/cyberul.html [2] often times due to requiring frameworks and configuration capabilities that end up not being used or too complicated for many people to customize. [3] back to the thread topic somewhat... being economics based. _______________________________________________ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. _______________________________________________
