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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Radzykewycz, T (Radzy) [mailto:[email protected]] Friday, October 21, 
> 2016 1:16 PM
> > From: Brent Kimberley <[email protected]> As opposed to
> > writing one XCCDF, why not write one XCCDF per point of interest
> > (inside the container of interest, inside the OS but outside the
> > container of interest, ...) - until upstream standards address Origin,
> > Point (in SpaceTime), Frame of Reference, ... for a cyber-physical
> > assembly?
> 
> When I start working on our container environment, I expect I
> need to write custom XCCDF and custom OVAL for some of the checks.
> Some of the management may be done in the container, but I expect
> most to be done in the underlying host.  So paths may be different,
> which would lead to either more complex OVAL with parameterization,
> or duplication of the OVAL content.
> 
> And as implied elsewhere, the XCCDF needs to be modified to
> indicate the correct information for the environment.
>
> From: Brent Kimberley <[email protected]> Wed, 2 Nov 2016 19:52:29 
> +0000 (edited)
> Hi Radzy.
> Assuming a strawman consisting of: one OS(i.e. apps, libraries,
> OSxContainer-Interface, etc.); and one container(i.e. app,
> libraries, ContainerxOS-Interface, etc.).
> 
> There is
>         one XCCDF for the OS    (baseline)
>         one XCCDF for the container  (delta)
>         one XCCDF for OS + container (net)
>         one XCCDF for OS union net (max)
>         one XCCDF for max - (OS intersection net ) (min)
> 
> The last XCCDF is:
>         one XCCDF for OS intersection net (min)
> 
> Whereas functionality at risk of eclipse is
>         max - (OS intersection net )

Hi Brent

Right.  Thanks for the enumeration.

I still need to look into two questions:

- Can I use docker to support what I need to do ?  Since OpenSCAP
  does have some kind of docker support built-in, and I haven't
  looked at it, this might be less work.  But I need to look
  into it.

- Can I use some kind of a prefix variable to minimize the amount
  of duplication.  Then I could have a profile for the OS and one
  for each container, and specify a procedure where both profiles
  are run with independent oscap commands.  Then some XCCDF for
  the other cases not covered by those two, possibly in a third
  oscap invocation..

And of course, there's always the possibility that some aspects
of both will be useful.  And the likelyhood that I'll need to do
something custom.

Enjoy!

-- radzy
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