On 7/25/17 5:14 PM, Shawn Wells wrote:
>
>
> On 7/22/17 2:46 AM, Philippe Thierry wrote:
>> Le 22/07/2017 à 05:48, Shawn Wells a écrit :
>>
>>> Personally I've no idea how to handle this, so I asked members of Red
>>> Hat's legal team for help.
>>>
>>> Also sent a note requesting feedback from other Red Hat members who
>>> work on international FOSS projects on how they've handled this. Will
>>> report back.
>>>
>> Ok. Thank you for that !
>
> Turns out Red Hat has an open source legal affairs team, chartered
> with helping projects tackle issues like this. Have connected with
> them -- but nothing to report back yet.

Comments from that team:

> Shawn, there are a lot of potential approaches here, but one I'd recommend is 
> what DoD code.mil is doing. See:
> https://github.com/deptofdefense/code.mil
>
> The idea is basically this: A project will generally start out with public 
> domain code in the US (to the extent it has been created by federal civil 
> servants). But the project will designate a true open source license at the 
> outset, such as GPLv3 or the Apache License 2.0 or what have you, and the 
> project will use the Developer Certificate of Origin with the understanding 
> that non-civil-servant contributors are agreeing to license in their 
> contributions under the designated open source license. Over time the project 
> becomes a mix of (a) federal civil servant code that is public domain in the 
> US, (b) federal civil servant code that is under the designated project 
> license outside the US, and (c) code from other contributors that is under 
> the designated project license. 
>
> As further explanation, note that the statement that US government employees 
> "cannot hold intellectual property" is not correct. What is true is that in 
> the US Copyright Act, works by federal civil servants in the scope of 
> employment are outside the scope of copyright - i.e., public domain. However, 
> it is generally agreed that this has no applicability to works published 
> outside the US. Software today is generally published simultaneously in 
> multiple jurisdictions (for example, the SCAP Security Guide, by being 
> published on GitHub, is published internationally in multiple countries). 
>
> I have a contact who is a lawyer for the code.mil people who may be able to 
> help if there is interest in this approach.

Still reading/learning about the code.mil process, but it looks like
it'll really help contributions from the non-US community. This gives US
Gov employees/contractors what they need for Public Domain protections,
and non-US Gov people can follow an agreed license like MIT/GPL etc.

Added bonus: This might also be a way to solve a long-standing gripe
about certain vendors using the SSG content without attribution.

Philippe: Can you review the code.mil process?

https://github.com/deptofdefense/code.mil

IIRC:
1) We add
https://github.com/deptofdefense/code.mil/blob/master/Proposal/INTENT.md
2) CONTRIBUTING gets updated to look like this:
https://github.com/deptofdefense/code.mil/blob/master/Proposal/CONTRIBUTING.md
3) CONTRIBUTORS.md gets updated to look like this:
https://github.com/deptofdefense/code.mil/blob/master/Proposal/CONTRIBUTORS.md
3) We pick a new license that best serves the community

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