Hi! Sorry for the delay; been hackin'.
On Thu 08 May 2014 01:06, John Cowan <[email protected]> writes: > Andy Wingo scripsit: > > <flame> My note was indeed inflammatory :) I don't mean to be mean, but I don't like the way things are going right now. I have more harsh words below but I don't know how to make them nice. They aren't about you, fwiw -- though speaking directly I think that although you can and do make great contributions to language specification, the result would be better in another context somehow. >> This discussion is frankly ridiculous. Where are Dybvig, Flatt, Clinger >> et al? Where is Feeley? > > Where is Wingo? I don't have near the sagacity of the people I mentioned, and my language design instincts are frankly bad. No false humility there :P Anyway more to the point, I don't care enough to overcome my gripes with the process. I don't think that the R7RS process is good for language design or specification. There are several people voting in R7RS things (big and small) whom I *actively do not want* making decisions about the programming language I am most happy with. Like, people that have written no code that I have ever seen, nor papers I found interesting, etc. None. I feel that some people participate because of a love of arcana rather than a generative, forward-looking love of the language backed by enough experience not to advocate bone-headed things. Lisps are like a drug for these people. With this kind of person there is nothing that ties us together, and I do not respect their contributions because I do not trust them as programmers. (Of course I can respect them as people, but that's not germane to the issue at hand; and they could be good programmers but I'd never know.) Now, this is not very democratic of me. That is correct. I don't want a whoever-shows-up process, because then I will end up arguing with people whose contributions I do not respect, and I don't have time for that. >> While I'm at it, where *is* the R7RS small final edition? > > It is at <http://trac.sacrideo.us/wg/raw-attachment/wiki/WikiStart/r7rs.pdf>, > on the only site where WG members can post anything. John I know this problem must be more frustrating to you than to anyone else, but do fix it. Give Olin a call, his number is in the whois. Andy -- http://wingolog.org/ o/~ now let me stop sounding all bitter hacker child never be a quitter but don't be a phony in the litter take it from a man who used to hack in busted-ass c code o/~ a tribe called quest, "phony hackers" _______________________________________________ Scheme-reports mailing list [email protected] http://lists.scheme-reports.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scheme-reports
