Pascal Georges wrote:

Hi!

>     Also a community project within the current scid
>     framework to create such a DB is worth to consider. A
>     start might be "complete TWIC" plus manual selection
>     of  major tournaments before TWIC started, or
>     whatever. I don't know what the community here thinks
>     about such a thing, but actually if
[...]
> 
> There already exists good free games collections, like
> ibase and Grand06, but I can't find again their sites :-(

Here you tackle exactly the problem for the newbe. For
whatever reason those collections pop out of the nowhere,
are accessible for a short period of time and then are gone.
When I started using scid I was well on the search for quite
a while. This actually gave me the idea that if ther're some
volunteers here on the list that want to take on such a job
the scid pages would be a good place to set up a "living"
and permanently accessible database". To set up such a thing
with some intellectual work behind (ie. not just concatening
all pgn files one can get, but looking for decent quality of
the included stuff, that is good header infos, complete
turnaments, normalised player names...) would be a great
thing.

> But I am sure searching a little bit, a good game DB can
> be set up from free resources.

Of course it can. The Pitsburg server
(http://www.pitt.edu/~schach/Archives/) gave a good start
e.g I found the main problem to eliminate dupes, normalise
names, get the tournaments complete etc. Stuff like that.

>     A similar project would be to set up a really good
>     opening book. E.g. Arena's main opening book is
>     created by such an efford. Ok, there's one person in
>     charge that works this out, but still it could be that
>     in the community here some people are arround that
>     say: ok, lets set such a thing up, I'm an expert in
>     the Sicilian and you can my friend  is a special fan
>     of the Ruy and in our local club...
> 
> Maybe you refer to Harry Schnapp's work ?

Yes, indeed. Though the announcement for arenas book sounds
a bit like "for arena and only for arena", but from the
description he does a very good job.

>     Though I think I'd not place such things within the
>     main distribution but into some "additional
>     ressources" part.
> 
> These could be hosted at SF or somewhere else.

Well, acutally I think to host it together with scid would
be great thing for new users. Both for a "scid reference db"
and a "scid reference opening book". So, if there're some
readers of the list that would want to take on the
challenge, they should feel strongly encouraged to do so.
I've some other parts in scid to work on and am too busy
right now to make any effords in that direction myself.

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