Hi Glenn,
I find it unusual that HEP will find an AlmaLinux list of much use in
many circumstances. Internal to CERN, and perhaps Fermilab and/or the
various signatories to which HEP collaborations are getting AlmaLinux
from CERN/Fermilab (along with any experiment/data analysis specific
software that is required to be present at all collaboration sites),
will there be additional INTERNAL list/s and/or support? I fully
understand that these sources would only be available to
CERN/Fermilab/Collaboration-signatories -- but the existence thereof is
important for those of us who do NOT have access to such resources. I
also fully understand that this is not the sort of "cradle-to-grave"
support provided under vendor contract to many for-profit enterprises as
HEP has qualified professional computer scientists and engineers as well
as physicists who are well versed on systems internals.
Just curious.
Kind regards,
Yasha
On 12/7/22 13:01, Glenn Cooper wrote:
Hi Yasha,
Will CERN/Fermilab provide the same level of support to AlmaLinux that
currently is provided for Scientific Linux?
AlmaLinux has its own support channels, so those are the way to go if you
choose Alma.
Will this list transition into an AlmaLinux list?
There are no plans for that. We'll continue to support Scientific Linux, and
this list, until the end of upstream support in 2024.
Very few of these have the general professionalism that was present on the SL
list.
Thanks to all for the helpful answers and friendly attitude!
Yours,
Glenn
On 12/7/22, 2:11 PM, "owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
<mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov> on behalf of Yasha Karant"
<owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov <mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov>
on behalf of ykar...@gmail.com <mailto:ykar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Will CERN/Fermilab provide the same level of support to AlmaLinux that
currently is provided for Scientific Linux? Will this list transition
into an AlmaLinux list?
I have looked at the non-vendor lists for non-vendor ports of production
RHEL current (CentOS basically is a vendor port). Very few of these
have the general professionalism that was present on the SL list. I
personally have transitioned to Ubuntu LTS current production; one thing
I sorely miss is straightforward answers that the SL list provided.
However, unlike RHEL, Ubuntu LTS does support a larger selection of
recent laptop hardware platforms and allow for the most recent
production versions of particular end-user applications. Nonetheless,
there are situations in which a RHEL current tested production clone
would be of use
On 12/7/22 11:53, Glenn Cooper wrote:
CERN and Fermilab jointly plan to provide AlmaLinux as the standard
distribution for experiments at our facilities, reflecting recent
experience and discussions with experiments and other stakeholders.
AlmaLinux has recently been gaining traction among the community due to
its long life cycle for each major version, extended architecture
support, rapid release cycle, upstream community contributions, and
support for security advisory metadata. In testing, it has demonstrated
to be perfectly compatible with the other rebuilds and Red Hat
Enterprise Linux.
CERN and, to a lesser extent, Fermilab, will also use Red Hat Enterprise
Linux (RHEL) for some services and applications within the respective
laboratories. Scientific Linux 7, at Fermilab, and CERN CentOS 7, at
CERN, will continue to be supported for their remaining life, until June
2024.
