RE: [scifinoir2] "Enterprise" episode "Demons"--minor spoilers

Sat, 14 May 2005 17:44:30 -0700

I'll figure out a due penance for my sin later. The only reason I thought of it was because I was looking forward in time (so to speak), peeking at the upcoming eps of DS9. "Trials and Tribble-ations" is due to air next week, and I couldn't help but think about those two bone-dry wits from temporal Investigations who had to debrief Sisko. But think of it this way. If it ever does come to pass, I've got the proof right here that'll get me a chunk of the franchise... 

Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nooooooo! Why'd you have to say it out loud? Now someone's gonna start developing it. I envision a bunch of young hard bodies--blonde women with fake boobs, dudes with surgically-carved abs and impossibly white teeth--jumping through time trying to right the wrongs created by Kirk and other offenders. Sooner or later they'll have to create a nemesis for the team, and then the show will degenerate into a catch-him-if-you-can scenario. I imagine something on the level of "Baywatch Nights".
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I had the most horrible thought the other night, after reading some of my backlog of e-mails, in particular the one about Shatner pitching the Starfleet Academy concept to Paramount. An idea that B&B would DROOL over. Are you ready?
 
Starfleet Temporal Investigations (shoot me NOW, for even MENTIONING it).

Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It wasn't bad, just weak, more like a Season one ep. Please--no more time travel!!!!   :(
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Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] "Enterprise" episode "Demons"--minor spoilers

I'm still lagging in reading that thread, so pardon my inexactitude. As for the show, it wasn't bad. Didn't give me the "wow" that most of Coto's other stories have this season, but I enjoyed it. I'm almost afraid to see how the matter of how the baby is Trip's and T'Pol's. (B&B, the Return of the Convoluted, Unnecessary Time Travel Story?) As for the bright idea of sending a Vulcan undercover into a racist underground netowrk- HUNH?

Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yeah, I guess you could say it's progress that they put Travis with a white woman in fairly intimate situations too (real kissing, not the quick peck usually shown with Black men and white women).  But I'm not as impressed with interracial couples as I am with good Black couples. That was indeed the focus of that thread you mentioned, where there was discussion about things such as why Will Smith lets the studios pair him with Latinas instead of fighting for a Black-on-Black love story. We need to get our own couples to be seen in a more positive light before we branch out to the others.
 
By the way, did you see the show? Thoughts?
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The one thing that struck me about this ep hearkens back to a thread we had running a bit back, about Blacks, Whites and love, how Black chars were rarely paired with Black love interests. I know, this is an offshoot of Roddenberry's vision, in which the world knows no color, but COME ON!

Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Minor spoilers...
 
What did y'all think about tonight's show? I wasn't too impressed. For some reason the pacing seemed rushed, as if the script had been thrown together. I mean, in about five minutes they go from the discovery of Tripp and T'Pol's baby to that Lunar mining facility with little of the moments to really explore the situation. It's as if they moved from one chapter in a story to another, with little connection between those chapters. At first I wondered if it was Levar Burton's direction, but I realize he simply filmed the script he was given. The characters seemed less realized, less multi-dimensional, than I've seen them in weeks. The show felt like a season one ep written by B&B, with a weak script and sketch characterization filling in for  a good story. Even my wife said something was off with the characterization and pacing. 
Also, several nagging things about it bugged me:
 
--What sense did it make to send Trip and T'Pol on the "secret" mission to the Lunar mining colony?? You're gonna send a Vulcan to a hotbed of xenophobic activity, and, to boot, the parents of the hybrid child, *and* two of the most famous people in the world? WTF? What braindead person wrote that artificial device?
--Is it me, or did the mining facility seem awfully cliched-looking for that time? Dirty people hand-lifting Lunar rocks like a bucket brigade? In this time of artificial gravity and warp drive, people still have to work like a Kentuckian labouring underground in the coal mines? Looked like something from a bad Van Damme future flick.
--Could they have been more obvious using people of color in the anti-alien organization Terra Prime? Amazing, all this time they can't find any people of color for the series, and they criminally underuse the Black and Asian on Enterprise. Yet in short order they give us *two* bald, dark, menacing-looking Brothers who just drip anti-alien vitriol, and, among the supporters, copious numbers of Asians and more Blacks as well. A little obvious, folks, trying to press the point that this is a human hatred of aliens, and using Blacks to point out the irony.
--Poor Travis! They never use the Brother, in the Mirror universe they make him a strong guy who beats up people for the Da Man (or Woman), and now, in the final shows they give him some lines and some lovin'--and he's punked by a spy for Terra Prime!!! What kind of justice is this?!
--Is everyone tired and the money almost gone, 'cause the FX of that Lunar mining colony were weak. Again, reminds me of season one's level of quality (or lack thereof).
--Burton's direction didn't fit the show, which is not really his fault. His camera angles were pulled back, giving it more of a cinematic look. it's just that for me at least, the script didn't live up the visual treatment. Maybe part two will be better.
 
 


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