You overestimate. Texas. Seven bucks, according to ABC News, and the check's
already in the mail.
sancochojo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So your saying if your a Vice President,
you automatically should
know how to shoot a gun. Please.
He is still a human, last time I checked.
You can talk about it all you want, but there are actual people who
want him to resign
from his position because of that. How lame is that.
Kobe would not be charged with a crime for accidently shooting his
friend with bird shots (pellets). give me a break.
If you want to kill someone, you don't use bird pellets.
First of all the victim would have to file a charge which I doubt
his friend will, I could be wrong so if anything, Left wing hawks
would try to get a local DA to file the charge.
So what is the offense? Manslaughter, yeah whatever.
carelessness with a fire arm? Slap on the hand.
No hunting permit? Slap on the hand $100 fine.
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't believe in left or right, but I do know that being shot is
no
> fun. 20 caliber buckshot or no, when you're second in command of
the
> United States, it's not much to ask that you look before you
shoot.
> If nothing else, it's good form during what is being called
wartime.
>
> Also, at what point is it acceptable for Americans to practice
this
> free speech thing? Is there a schedule? Because I'm sure nobody
wants
> to be out of step.
>
> A man was SHOT in the FACE by the VICE PRESIDENT. You don't think
> that's worth talking about? Even for 5 minutes? You don't find it
> ODD? Why does it have to be a left or right issue?! How can you
be
> liberal or conservative about shooting someone in the FACE?
>
> If this was Kobe Bryant, he'd be getting a trial date right now
and
> Court TV would be commissioning theme music for the spring. But
it's
> not a basketball player. It's the former CEO of Halliburton, a
job
> that you don't get by making silly mistakes, and let's not
forget,
> the man is second in command of one of the biggest military forces
in
> the world. But somehow now we're at "oh this is more whining from
the
> left". This left/right nonsense has damaged people's common
damned
> sense. A man was shot in the FACE by an elected official. People
are
> right to react to this, it's part of what this Republic was
founded
> on. No sane person can approve of sitting down to dinner after
> another human being has been injured to the degree that they have
to
> go to the hospital. Do we have to start administering Voight-
Kampf
> tests on politicians now?
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:19 AM, sancochojo wrote:
>
> oooookkk. So what does it all mean.
>
> He needs to resign?
> he needs to give a public appology?
> What?
>
> What will make the Left feel better?
>
> Accidents do happen.
>
> His partner is not filing any charges.
>
> ok, he broke some hunting law, but I don't know to many
> people losing their job for it.
>
> I think the Left is making something bigger then it really is.
>
> The LEFT is just drawing at straws and the RIGHT needs to shut the
> heck up.
>
>
>
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson"
> <KeithBJohnson@> wrote:
> >
> > This is completely biased, and taking advantage of an
unfortunate
> > situation to further denounce a man I despise, but two things
from
> this
> > article strike me:
> >
> > One: "... the White House did not disclose the accident until
> Sunday
> > afternoon, and then only in response to press questions". The
> accident
> > occured Saturday, but mealy-mouth spokesman McClellan didn't
> discuss it
> > until late Sunday, and then only when confronted? Jeez, is there
> > anything this administration doesn't try to close ranks on and
> keep from
> > the public??
> >
> > And two: "...Later, the hunting group sat down for dinner while
> > Whittington was being treated, receiving updates from a family
> member at
> > the hospital. [Ranch owner] Armstrong described Cheney's
demeanor
> during
> > dinner as 'very worried'". What?? They sat down to dinner?? He
> shot a
> > friend in the face and went to dinner? And from the wording, one
> assumes
> > they ain't talking about the McDonalds in the hospital. That
just
> seems
> > wrong.
> >
> > Cheney Apparently Breaks Key Hunting Rule
> >
> > By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer 13 minutes ago
> >
> > Vice President Dick Cheney apparently broke the No. 1 rule of
> hunting:
> > Be sure of what you're shooting at. He also violated Texas game
> law by
> > failing to buy a hunting stamp. Cheney wounded fellow hunter
Harry
> > Whittington in the face, neck and chest Saturday, apparently
> because he
> > didn't see Whittington approaching as he fired on a covey of
quail
> in
> > Texas. Hunting safety experts interviewed Monday agreed it would
> have
> > been a good idea for Whittington to announce himself -
something he
> > apparently didn't do, according to a witness. But they stressed
> that the
> > shooter is responsible for avoiding other people.
> >
> > "It's incumbent upon the shooter to assess the situation and
make
> sure
> > it's a safe shot," said Mark Birkhauser, president-elect of the
> > International Hunter Education Association and hunter education
> > coordinator in New Mexico. "Once you squeeze that trigger, you
> can't
> > bring that shot back."
> >
> > The Parks and Wildlife Department said Cheney and Whittington
will
> be
> > given warning citations for violating game law by not having an
> upland
> > game bird stamp, a requirement that went into effect in
September.
> > Cheney had a $125 nonresident hunting license, the vice
president's
> > office said Monday night in a statement, and has sent a $7
check to
> > cover the cost of the stamp. Cheney, an experienced hunter, has
not
> > commented publicly about the accident. He avoided reporters by
> leaving
> > an Oval Office meeting with United Nations Secretary-General
Kofi
> Annan
> > before the press was escorted in. President Bush was told about
> Cheney's
> > involvement in the accident shortly before 8 p.m. Saturday -
about
> an
> > hour after it occurred - but the White House did not disclose
the
> > accident until Sunday afternoon, and then only in response to
press
> > questions. Press secretary Scott McClellan said he did not know
> until
> > Sunday morning that Cheney had shot someone.
> >
> > Facing a press corps upset that news had been withheld,
McClellan
> said,
> > "I think you can always look back at these issues and look at
how
> to do
> > a better job."
> >
> > Katharine Armstrong, the owner of the ranch where the shooting
> occurred,
> > said she told Cheney on Sunday morning that she was going to
> inform the
> > local paper, the Corpus Christi Caller-Times. She said he
agreed,
> and
> > the newspaper reported it on its Web site Sunday afternoon.
Secret
> > Service spokesman Eric Zahren said that about an hour after
Cheney
> shot
> > Whittington, the head of the Secret Service's local office
called
> the
> > Kenedy County sheriff to report the accident. "They made
> arrangements at
> > the sheriff's request to have deputies come out and interview
the
> vice
> > president the following morning at 8 a.m. and that indeed did
> happen,"
> > Zahren said.
> >
> > At least one deputy showed up at the ranch's front gate later in
> the
> > evening and asked to speak to Cheney but was turned away by the
> Secret
> > Service, Zahren said. There was some miscommunication that
> arrangements
> > had already been made to interview the vice president, he said.
> Gilbert
> > San Miguel, chief deputy sheriff for Kenedy County, said the
> report had
> > not been completed Monday and that it was being handled as a
> hunting
> > accident, although he would not comment about what that meant
they
> were
> > investigating. He said his department's investigation had found
> that
> > alcohol was not a factor in the shooting, but he would not
> elaborate
> > about how that had been determined. The Texas Parks and Wildlife
> hunting
> > accident report also said neither Cheney nor Whittington
appeared
> to be
> > under the influence of intoxicants or drugs.
> >
> > Whittington, a prominent Republican attorney in the Texas
capital
> of
> > Austin, was in stable condition at Christus Spohn Hospital
Corpus
> > Christi-Memorial and was moved from intensive care to a "step-
down
> unit"
> > Monday. Doctors decided to leave several birdshot pellets lodged
> in his
> > skin rather than try to remove them. Armstrong said the accident
> > occurred toward the end of the hunt, as darkness was encroaching
> and
> > they were preparing to go inside. Whittington was retrieving
from
> tall
> > grass a bird he had shot. Cheney and another hunter, Pamela
> Willeford,
> > the U.S. ambassador to Switzerland, moved on to another covey of
> quail -
> > Armstrong estimated it was roughly 100-150 yards away - and
Cheney
> fired
> > on a bird just as Whittington rejoined them. She said
Whittington
> was in
> > tall grass and thick brush about 30 yards away, which made it
> difficult
> > for Cheney to see him, although both men were wearing bright-
orange
> > safety vests. She said Whittington made a mistake by not vocally
> > announcing that he had walked up to rejoin the hunting line.
> Armstrong
> > said she saw Cheney's security detail running toward the
> scene. "The
> > first thing that crossed my mind was he had a heart problem,"
she
> told
> > The Associated Press.
> >
> > She said Cheney stayed "close but cool" while the agents and
> medical
> > personnel treated Whittington, then took him away via ambulance
to
> the
> > hospital. Later, the hunting group sat down for dinner while
> Whittington
> > was being treated, receiving updates from a family member at the
> > hospital. Armstrong described Cheney's demeanor during dinner
> as "very
> > worried" about Whittington. Willeford told The Dallas Morning
News
> in a
> > story for Tuesday editions that she had hunted with Cheney
before
> and
> > would do so again. "He's a great shot. He's very safety
conscious.
> This
> > is something that unfortunately was a bad accident and when
you're
> with
> > a group like that, he's safe or safer than all the rest of us,"
she
> > said.
> >
> >
> > Duane Harvey, president of the Wisconsin Hunter Education
> Instructors
> > Association, said if Whittington had made his presence
known "that
> would
> > have been a polite thing to do." But, he added, "it's still the
> fault
> > upon the shooter to identify his target and what is beyond it."
> >
> >
> > Despite all the safety tips and training, hunting accidents are
an
> > unfortunate part of the sport. In Texas, there were 30 accidents
> and two
> > hunting deaths last year, according to the state Parks and
Wildlife
> > Department. National figures kept by the International Hunter
> Education
> > Association show 744 shooting accidents, with 74 deaths, in
2002,
> the
> > last year for which figures were available. Twenty-six accidents
> > involving quail hunting were reported. The association estimates
> there
> > are 15.7 million hunters who will spend about 250 million days
> hunting
> > in the United States this year.
> >
> >
> > Wyoming Gov. Dave Freudenthal, a Democrat, said the accident
> wouldn't
> > keep him from going on a bipartisan hunt with Cheney. "I would
be
> proud
> > to hunt with the vice president - cautious, but proud," he told
> > reporters.
> >
> >
> >
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