Let's get together and mass-mail Spike Lee. He can pick it up, now that he's torn the Government to shreds with his Katrina doc. Speaking of which, who here's watching that? And what are the opinions?
drcsaid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This woould be a good time to make a film on one of the black firefighters that lost his life... --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are now only 312 Black firefighters in the New York City Fire > Department out of a total force of 11,350. They make up 2.7% of the > fire department, in a city where 24.5% of the population is Black and > nearly 50% is minority. The fire department is the city's least > diverse municipal work force. Twelve Black firefighters gave their > lives along with 332 other emergency personnel in the World Trade > Center tragedy. > > Anyway, here's the link you asked for: > > http://www.pww.org/index.php/article/view/490/1/50/ > > The horrible events of 9/11 brought people together. But now there is > an effort to destroy that unity. The statue planned to commemorate > firefighters lost at the World Trade Center has generated much > controversy and some thoughtful discussion. > > Should the monument depict a team, made up of an African American, a > Latino, and a white firefighter raising the U.S. flag, as proposed by > the artists? Or should it show three white firefighters, as in the > news photograph of the World Trade Center flag-raising which suggested it? > > -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: > > > > Are you trying to tell me that the NYC firefighters actually claimed > that *none* of the hundreds of firefighters on the scenes were > Black??? That can't be possible. What about all the cops, Port > Authority, transportation cops pressed into service, medics, doctors, > etc? Got any links to this particular bit of info? > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: "ravenadal" <ravenadal@> > > I find this interesting in light of all the flack the city of NYC took > > from NY firefighters when the city proposed erecting a 911 monument > > with one of the memorialized firefighters being black. The > > firefighters were adamant that since none of the 911 heros were black > > this would be the worse form of politcial correctness. > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly > > Tracey L. Minor)" <tdlists@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > Subject: [AFAMHED] Black hero has race changed in 911 movie > > > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:16:34 -0400 > > > From: Boyce Watkins - Syracuse Finance <bwatkins@> > > > Reply-To: Boyce Watkins - Syracuse Finance <bwatkins@> > > > To: AFAMHED@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'WTC' casting error draws flak from African-Americans > > > > > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 > > > By L.A. Johnson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette > > > http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06228/713723-254.stm > > > A hero of another color in Oliver Stone's "World Trade Center" has > some > > > people again balking at the whitewashing of a black character in a > > > Hollywood film. > > > > > > <http://www.post-gazette.com/popup.asp?img=http://www.post- gazette.com/images4/20060815ap_wtchero_450.jpg> > > > > > > > > Bebeto Matthews/The Associated Press > > > *Jason Thomas of Columbus, Ohio, helped rescue Port Authority police > > > officers John McLoughlin and Will Jimeno on 9/11. In Oliver Stone's > > > movie, "World Trade Center," a white actor was cast to portray > > Thomas. ** > > > Click photo for larger image.* > > > > > > This time it's the character of Marine Sgt. Thomas, one of two former > > > Marines who help rescue New York Port Authority Officers Will Jimeno > > and > > > John McLoughlin from beneath 20 feet of twisted metal, broken > concrete > > > and sparking debris in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks. > > > In the film, white actor William Mapother -- who's Tom Cruise's > cousin > > > and who played Ethan Rom in the first season of "Lost" and Quecreek > > > miner John "Flathead" Phillippi in ABC's "The Pennsylvania Miners' > > > Story" -- plays Sgt. Thomas. > > > Last week, the real Sgt. Thomas -- a black, former Marine named Jason > > > Thomas of Columbus, Ohio -- came forward and told his story. > > > "Someone needed help. It didn't matter who," Thomas told the > Associated > > > Press. "I didn't even have a plan. But I have all this training as a > > > Marine, and all I could think was, 'My city is in need.' " > > > So, instead of heading to class at the John Jay College of Criminal > > > Justice at City University of New York that fateful morning, he > headed > > > toward the devastation. At ground zero, he ran into another ex- Marine > > > and Connecticut accountant, Staff Sgt. David Karnes, and the two > > decided > > > to search for survivors. Eventually they found Jimeno and McLoughlin. > > > Karnes, who couldn't reach Manhattan's 911 from his cell phone at > > ground > > > zero, called his sister in Munhall, Joy Karnes. She helped relay > > > information to New York emergency services that helped them pinpoint > > the > > > trapped men's location. > > > Film producer Michael Shamberg apologized to Thomas for the racial > > > inaccuracy in the film, saying they realized the mistake only after > > > production had already begun, the Associated Press reported. > > > That apology comes a bit late for Paradise Gray, 42, of > Wilkinsburg who > > > sent out e-mails to hundreds of thousands via African-American list > > > serves and Internet groups, such as the Luv4Self Network yesterday > > > calling for a boycott of the film. > > > "You want to apologize to me?" Mr. Gray says. "Stop it." > > > Black men so rarely are portrayed or presented as heroes in popular > > > culture and the media that when the opportunity to do so arises, they > > > should be, he says. > > > "It's so natural for Hollywood to assume that every hero is a white > > > man," Mr. Gray wrote in his e-mail. "Hollywood has always changed > facts > > > and edited history. From Charlton Heston as Moses and Elizabeth > Taylor > > > as Cleopatra. They are only continuing their tradition of > whitewashing > > > our history." > > > He also criticized the black community for not speaking out more. The > > > Jewish community's mantra is "never forget" while the black > community's > > > mantra is "forgive and forget," he said. The black community should > > > speak up every time this happens. > > > Six years ago, there was a similar controversy surrounding > color-blind > > > casting in the film "Pay It Forward." Kevin Spacey's white burn > victim > > > in the movie actually was a black Vietnam veteran in the book. > > > Though disappointed his character in the "World Trade Center" movie > > > wasn't black, Thomas, who lived on Long Island during the attacks and > > > now works as an officer in Ohio's Supreme Court, told the Associated > > > Press he's not upset. > > > "I don't want to shed any negativity on what they were trying to > show," > > > he said. > > > The movie is much bigger than him, Thomas told the New Pittsburgh > > > Courier, and it's the people who lost their lives who need to > > remembered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > "Excuse me while I whip this out." Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! 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