Haggard is as "cured" as Rush Limbaugh is sober. Set your RSS feed for these two clowns. There's more to come from both, for sure.
George --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, ja, ja... > > Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (tongue firmly in cheek, folks!) > > Uhhh...this WAS Freudian, right? LOLLOL! > > > _____ > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:43 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Ousted Pastor ââ¬ËCompletely Heterosexual > > Anyone find it odd that on this day, as the Right reverend Haggard announces himself free of homosexuality, a former NBA player, John Amaeichi, comes out of the closet? Maybe Haggard's onto something? (tongue firmly in cheek, folks!) > > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote: Especially not in three weeks. I think the most they could accomplish > is that they would make them turned off to sex entirely. > > Tracey > > Bosco Bosco wrote: > > > > I know a lot of gay people who don't feel > > they could just switch teams given the right set of circumstances. > > > > Bosco > > --- KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > Is it the same therapy used on Gibson, Richards, and Washington? I > > > think I posted an e-mail a couple of weeks ago joking that there > > > ought to be a treatment facility divided into wings for differing > > > types of phobias and prejudices. > > > > > > What do you think? Is homosexuality an illness or behavioural issue > > > that can be "cured"? I'm not convinced that all homosexuality is > > > genetic or brain-mandated as some feel. (You're either born gay or > > > not, they say). Look at all the ancient societies where > > > homosexuality--or bi-sexuality, I should say--was practiced: > > > Sparta, Rome, others. Surely not every soldier and citizen who > > > engaged in that behaviour was born gay? I think the lifestyle and > > > cultural mores might have done that to them. > > > > > > Are some people born gay, and others simply become such due to > > > environment? > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ravenadal% 40yahoo.com> com <mailto:ravenadal%40yahoo.com>> > > > There was a great bit on "The View" today. The women mentioned that > > > parents sometimes make a child caught smoking smoke a whole pack of > > > cigarettes as a form of aversion therapy. They pondered what sort > > > of > > > "aversion therapy" had been employed to make Haggard change his > > > orientation in just three weeks... > > > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > > <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com>, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly > > > Tracey L. Minor)" <tdlists@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Forced by a gay sex scandal to resign as president of the > > > National > > > > Association of Evangelicals, the Rev. Ted Haggard now feels that > > > after > > > > three weeks of intensive counseling, he is ââ∠âcompletely > > > heterosexual,âââ¬Ã > > > > says an overseer of the megachurch Mr. Haggard once led. > > > > > > > > The church official, the Rev. Tim Ralph, said in an interview > > > published > > > > yesterday by The Denver Post that Mr. Haggard had also told the > > > board of > > > > overseers that his only sexual relationship involving another man > > > had > > > > been with Michael Jones, the onetime Denver prostitute who > > > exposed that > > > > three-year affair last fall. Mr. Jones said then that he was > > > making it > > > > public because Mr. Haggard had acted hypocritically in promoting > > > a > > > > constitutional amendment to bar same-sex marriage. > > > > > > > > Mr. Haggard, who as a result of the scandal was ousted by the > > > overseers > > > > in November as senior pastor of New Life Church in Colorado > > > Springs, > > > > broke a three-month silence over the weekend when he contacted > > > members > > > > of the church by e-mail to tell them that he was healing. > > > > > > > > His three weeks of counseling, in Phoenix, felt like ââ ∠âthree > > > yearsâââ‰â¢ worth > > > > of analysis and treatment,âââ¬Ã but now ââ ∠âJesus is starting to put > > > me > > > back > > > > together,âââ¬Ã Mr. Haggard wrote in the e-mail message, which was > > > published > > > > in The Colorado Springs Gazette on Monday. > > > > > > > > ââ∠âI have spent so much time in repentance, brokenness, hurt and > > > sorrow > > > > for the things Iâââ‰â¢ve done and the negative impact my actions > > > have > > > had on > > > > others,âââ¬Ã he said. > > > > > > > > Mr. Haggard could not be reached for comment yesterday. Mr. Ralph > > > > > > > declined through a spokeswoman to comment, and there was no > > > response to > > > > telephone calls and e-mail to another overseer or to a New Life > > > > spokesman. But Mr. Ralph told The Denver Post that Mr. Haggard > > > had come > > > > out of the counseling convinced of his heterosexuality. > > > > > > > > ââ∠âHe is completely heterosexual,ââ â¬Ã Mr. Ralph told The Post, > > > adding > > > that > > > > Mr. Haggardâââ‰â¢s homosexual activity had not been ââ∠âa constant > > > thing.âââ¬Ã > > > > > > > > Dr. Jack Drescher, a New York psychiatrist who is an expert on > > > issues of > > > > gender and sexuality, said that while it was peopleââ â‰â¢s > > > prerogative to > > > > identify their sexual orientation as they wanted, the notion of > > > being > > > > able to change that orientation was ââ∠ânot consistent with > > > clinical > > > > presentations, but totally consistent with theological belief.âââ¬Ã > > > > > > > > ââ∠âSome people in the community that Mr. Haggard comes from > > > believe > > > > homosexuality is a form of behavior, a sinful form of behavior > > > based on > > > > certain things in the Bible, and they donâââ‰â¢t believe you can > > > create a > > > > healthy identity based on sinful behavior,âââ¬Ã Dr. Drescher said. > > > ââ∠âSo they > > > > define it as a behavior that can be changed, and there is this > > > thinking > > > > that if you control those behaviors enough, heterosexual > > > attractions > > > > will follow.âââ¬Ã > > > > > > > > Mr. Haggard said in his message to New Life members that he and > > > his > > > wife > > > > were taking online courses to get masterâââ‰â¢s degrees in > > > psychology, and > > > > Mr. Ralph told The Post that the oversight board had recommended > > > to Mr. > > > > Haggard that he take up secular work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes. <http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/07/us/07haggard.html? ex=1171515600&en=59d2a4127cfb1bfb&ei=5070&emc=eta1> com/2007/02/07/us/07haggard.html? ex=1171515600&en=59d2a4127cfb1bfb&ei=5070&emc=eta1 > > <http://www.nytimes. <http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/07/us/07haggard.html? ex=1171515600&en=59d2a4127cfb1bfb&ei=5070&emc=eta1> com/2007/02/07/us/07haggard.html? ex=1171515600&en=59d2a4127cfb1bfb&ei=5070&emc=eta1> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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