This is gonna sound crazy, but think "The Waltons" meets "Jeremiah" meets "Mad Max". Great phrasing Keith. Jeremiah and Odyssey 5 are two other shows destroyed without a purpose. Despite big followings, showtime decided to discontinue sciFriday and so they dumped them. From what I have read, there Fridays are not doing that good. I just canceled my showtime about a week ago. Good Riddance
Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > This is gonna sound crazy, but think "The Waltons" meets "Jeremiah" > meets "Mad Max". There are moments that deal with family matters of > love and lose and good old standard arguments, there are moments of > incredible violence, and there are corny moments of people trying to > pull together to remain true to what America means. But it works. It > really did sometimes make me think "I guess this is what it'd be like > if you had to survive after a strike, but the world's not *completely* > gone". > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com>> > Between the post-mortem posts I'm reading here and in other goups, > methinks I may have prejudged too much... > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> wrote: > Felt the same way at first, thought it was cliched and predictable. > And in some ways, aspects of it weren't super original. But > others--like Hawkins' true mission--were surprising. I think that all > of us have read and seen so much scifi and speculative fiction, little > is really suprising. But Jericho was written with such seriousness and > sincerity that I could forgive the things that weren't surprising. But > again, in the main I really feel it got better, and definitely had > some original things, like the young teen who runs the general store > and starts turning into a hard ass. Watching this curly-haired faintly > nerdy-looking kid lord his meager supplies over his neighbors like a > plantation lord was wild--and unsettling. Some characters died I > didn't expect. Some of the savagery to which these formerly Middle > American archetypes resorted was shocking. You might have still hated > it, but after four or five eps, I did go from dismissal > to fan. > > As for predictable dialogue, *nothing* is as bad in that regard as the > Trek series done by B&B. I have indeed sat and yelled out whole > phrases from "Voyager" before they're utttered, the plots were so > predictable. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com>> > Okay, since Daryle took the heat of saying that he wasn't a fan first > (I owe you lunch for that, BTB), I'll chime in on this. > > I quit the show ten minutes into the pilot, because I didn't see > anything out of the ordinary or anything sufficient to hold me there. > I inadvertently applied an age-old test of mine to the show. If I > could guess the next line spoken, it means that the show was so > predictable that it wasn't worth the expenditure of time to watch. I > don't remember the line, but I got it consonant-for-consonant. A good > show, IMO, should have dialogue that surprises you. DSNine had that, > all the way through. I know, it was the first season, still working > the kinks out. But I don't forgive TV easily. Too much crap gets > through (V*****r, S******r, and A******n I**l, just to name three). If > I've offended, please forgive me. > > Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.com>> wrote: > > I have to say, after the second episode of "Jericho", I never > watched again. I know that it looked interesting, but I think you put > it into the best terms. I simply didn't want to get all invested > in this show and have it pulled. I actually thought Heroes was > gonna get pulled before ANY of these shows, and once it was clear > that this show was staying , I focused on it. I have found that I > really enjoyed "Firefly" more on DVD than I did when it was on > Fox, as commercials annoy me to no end, so I have a feeling that > I will own the season of Jericho when it comes out. > > On May 16, 2007, at 6:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> wrote: > > > I've said this before to you, I know. But back in the late '80s and > > early to mid '90s, I was so fed up with scifi on TV I actually > > abandoned it for a while. The networks kept putting out crap shows > > like "Hard Time on Planet Earth" and cancelling them to no one's > > surprise. But good shows--like "Wolf" on Fox--were cancelled > > quickly too. Between the bad shows that disappointed me, and the > > pain of good shows getting yanked before they could find a rhythmn, > > it became too much. I avoided several quality shows for years. I > > could tell the quality was good on many of them, but I was so > > afraid of them being cancelled once I was a fan, i stayed away. So, > > other than Trek (which I know had major committments), I missed the > > early days of things like "The X-Files", "Space: Above and Beyond", > > "Strange Luck", and many others. But one day, after several people > > had talked about "Space: Above and Beyond", I started watching it > > and loved it. Of course it was cancelled. Of course it hurt. But, I w > > as glad for having seen it, and regretted not having been there > > from its start. > > > > After a while I decided that even one season of a good show was > > better than never having seen that show. So over the years my > > mental landscape is littered with the bitter memories of good to > > fantastic shows that never got a chance: shows like "John Doe", > > "Jeremiah", "Odyssey 5", "G vs. E", "The Chronicle", "Witchblade", > > "Now and Again", "Tru Calling", "American Gothic", "Invasion", > > "Threshold", "Dead Last". And "Jericho". > > > > It still hurts to think of every single one of those series. And > > once again i'm finding myself getting skittish about coming to love > > a new scifi/speculative fiction series. But I think I'll persevere > > this time, 'cause at least I have some good memories... > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com>> > > > > > I posted this for you most of all. I think this would have grown > > to be > > > a great show. Sometimes first seasons have growing pains and I think > > > Jericho fits into this category of show. I only saw a few > > episodes as > > > they did not show it in Mexico, but i was becoming a fan. After > > hearing > > > this, I do not think I will watch the last episode. Will will only > > > serve to frustrate me. I hope the ratin.gs losses that Heroes, Lost > > > and Jericho suffered as a result of extended Hiatuses will > > convince the > > > networks not to play fast and loose with audience loyalty and more. > > > Somehow I doubt they will learn from this. > > > > > > Tracey > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > Tracey. > > > > > > > > Amazing. Monday night I started an essay, "Why I like Jericho". > > After > > > > disparaging what I thought was a cliched, post-apocalyptic show > > set in > > > > my least favorite setting--a small town in Kansas--I found myself > > > > watching week after week. I kept trying to scoff at the homespun > > > > location, the family problems, but I couldn't. Even things like > > a man > > > > cheating on his wife took on a new importance in a world that may > > > > never be the same. An election of a mayor in that small town > > took on > > > > huge importance, as later revealed when the new mayor found out he > > > > wasn't as tough as he thought in dealing with things liek rogue > > army > > > > units and an invasion by t he neighboring town. The whole fact > > that > > > > the nukes were setoff by an American group bent on "rebuilding > > AMerica > > > > to what it *should* be" and that this group included *Blacks* > > caught > > > > my attention. the fact that a Balck man was fighting that > > conspiracy > > > > and given such an important role in teh series kept me coming > > back. > > > > > > > > "Jericho" kept pulling me in week after week. About how it was > > > > touching but not overly sentimental, exciting but not over-the- > > top, > > > > realistic, but not mediocre and boring. It was as close to > > realistic > > > > as I guess a post-nuclear show set in Kansas could be. Despite > > myself, > > > > I liked the show's balance of drama, action, intrigue, and family > > > > matters. Yeah, I was going to write that essay about how "Jericho" > > > > moved me from critic to a real fan. > > > > > > > > I'll still write that essay, but I guess now it'll be a post- > > mortem. Damn. > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CBS Ends `Jericho' in New Schedule > > > > > > > > > > By DAVID BAUDER > > > > > The Associated Press > > > > > Wednesday, May 16, 2007; 2:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > NEW YORK -- CBS canceled the nuclear apocalypse drama, > > "Jericho," on > > > > > Wednesday, another sign that TV networks are shying away from > > serial > > > > > dramas after overloading on them last season. > > > > > > > > > > The network unveiled a fall schedule with five new shows, > > three of them > > > > > dramas. > > > > > > > > > > "Jericho" started out strong last fall for CBS. However, like > > "Lost" on > > > > > ABC and "Heroes" on NBC, many viewers abandoned the show > > after it went > > > > > on a long midseason hiatus. > > > > > > > > > > "We lost a lot of steam," said Kelly Kahl, CBS' chief scheduling > > > > > executive. 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